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Old 10-16-2008, 08:49 AM
Location: Phoenix metro
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Originally Posted by BirdistheWord View Post
Did you just put pirating on the same level as starving millions of people?
Ummm, noooooo. I simply mentioned it. How, er, why do you think I put them on the same level? Did I imply that in some way or another? Didnt think so.
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Old 10-16-2008, 09:40 AM
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Have you seen the movie Obsession?

Or the more recent movie, The Third Jihad?

Here's a post from the Politics forum that includes some links for further info on radical Islam.

Yes, it's waaaay past time for America to wake up! Unfortunately, our pending slide into socialism isn't going to sound any wake up alarms.
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Old 10-16-2008, 01:04 PM
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If you get rid of the evangelical Christians I promise to help you with your problem.

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Old 10-16-2008, 01:37 PM
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Some people just need to fear something.
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Old 10-16-2008, 01:43 PM
Location: Lake Arlington Heights, IL
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How about a "Centrist's" point of view. I have no problem with any group as long as they try to assimilate. This doesn't mean giving up your culture, religion or language. It does mean being tolerant of others and remembering to treat others with respect and kindness. If the Islam preached is the radical "Let's propogate Jihad against all non-Muslims here in America" then I'm right with you in speaking out against it. If it is the more moderate version of Islam that extols socially acceptable, productive virtues, then let them practice their right to freedom of religion. Now I would say this about any religion. If Jews, Lutherans, Catholics, Hindu, B'Hai's start spewing hate-filled, pre-judiced viewpoints-I will speak out against them. I always thought the ads were to educate people to the moderate, main-stream Islam in attempt to fight stereo-types that all Muslims are terrorists.

I got this off the Islam.com web-site:
The literal meaning of Islam is peace; surrender of oneís will i.e. losing oneself for the sake of God and surrendering oneís own pleasure for the pleasure of God. The message of Islam was revealed to the Holy Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings on him) 1, 400 years ago. It was revealed through angel Gabriel (on whom be peace) and was thus preserved in the Holy Quran. The Holy Quran carries a Divine guarantee of safeguard from interpolation and it claims that it combines the best features of the earlier scriptures.The prime message of Islam is the Unity of God, that the Creator of the world is One and He alone is worthy of worship and that Muhammad (peace and blessings on him) is His Messenger and Servant. The follower of this belief is thus a Muslim - a Muslimís other beliefs are: Godís angels, previously revealed Books of God, all the prophets, from Adam to Jesus (peace be on them both), the Day of Judgement and indeed the Decree of God. A Muslim has five main duties to perform, namely; bearing witness to the Unity of God and Muhammad (peace and blessings on him) as His Messenger, observing the prescribed prayer, payment of Zakat, keeping the fasts of Ramadhan and performing the pilgrimage to Mecca.Islam believes that each person is born pure. The Holy Quran tells us that God has given human beings a choice between good and evil and to seek Godís pleasure through faith, prayer and charity. Islam believes that God created mankind in His image and by imbuing the attributes of God on a human level mankind can attain His nearness. Islamís main message is to worship God and to treat all Godís creation with kindness and compassion. Rights of parents in old age, orphans and the needy are clearly stated. Womenís rights were safeguarded 1,400 years ago when the rest of the world was in total darkness about emancipation. Islamic teachings encompass every imaginable situation and its rules and principles are truly universal and have stood the test of time.In Islam virtue does not connote forsaking the bounties of nature that are lawful. On the contrary one is encouraged to lead a healthy, active life with the qualities of kindness, chastity, honesty, mercy, courage patience and politeness. In short, Islam has a perfect and complete code for the guidance of individuals and communities alike. As the entire message of Islam is derived from the Holy Quran and indeed the Sunnah and Hadith (the traditions and practices of the Holy Prophet, peace and blessings on him) it is immutable in the face of change in time and place. It may appear rigid to the casual eye, in actual fact it is most certainly an adaptable way of life regardless of human changes.Islam teaches that the path to spiritual development is open to all. Any individual who searches the One Creator can seek nearness to God through sincere and earnest worship; it is central to establishing a relationship with the Almighty. This positive message for humanity fills hearts with hope and courage.At present there are 1.5 billion Muslims worldwide and they form the majority in more than 50 countries of the world. Today Islam is the fastest growing faith in the world - its beautiful message is reaching millions in the far corner of the earth.

So Ron, what do you find objectionable?! I interpret your arguments as being racist and intolerant. I have read and heard similar arguments during American history against: Native Americans, Irish, Germans, Italians, Jews, Chinese, African Americans, Japanese, Mexicans and many other groups. If you shun people they feel marginalized and are then more likely to be un-productive citizens. This goes for any group.
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Old 10-16-2008, 06:50 PM
Location: yeah
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So did you call and get the facts on Islam like they suggest? Or did you go to Fox News like an idiot?
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