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View Poll Results: What Cities Are Most Gritty?
Boston 9 9.57%
Providence 7 7.45%
Hartford 9 9.57%
New York City 31 32.98%
Philadelphia 40 42.55%
Pittsburgh 31 32.98%
Buffalo 32 34.04%
Baltimore 36 38.30%
Washington D.C. 16 17.02%
Charlotte 3 3.19%
Atlanta 6 6.38%
Jacksonville 3 3.19%
Tampa 4 4.26%
Miami 8 8.51%
Cleveland 25 26.60%
Columbus 3 3.19%
Cincinnati 17 18.09%
Nashville 2 2.13%
Memphis 12 12.77%
New Orleans 24 25.53%
Detroit 50 53.19%
Indianapolis 4 4.26%
Chicago 26 27.66%
Milwaukee 12 12.77%
St. Louis 30 31.91%
Kansas City 6 6.38%
Minneapolis 3 3.19%
Dallas 2 2.13%
Houston 5 5.32%
Seattle 1 1.06%
Denver 1 1.06%
Phoenix 3 3.19%
Las Vegas 3 3.19%
San Diego 6 6.38%
Los Angeles 11 11.70%
San Francisco 6 6.38%
Portland 1 1.06%
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Old 10-20-2008, 07:09 PM
 
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no NYC has lost most of its grit

newark, JC, Philly are all still gritty
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Old 10-20-2008, 07:15 PM
 
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Sure it does. Rust Belt means its not what it used to be, it's in a depression, etc. Pittsburgh's nestled in that area, but when I went there I certainly felt a lot safer than I did in Detroit, Cleveland, Rochester, and Buffalo at night.

I don't know. Pittsburgh hasn't reached its full potential yet so I think it could go either way.
Pittsburgh doesn't feel rustbelt to you? I mean, yea its doing great and all, but its very Rustbelt. Its the essence of rustbelt, in the heart of it
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Old 10-20-2008, 07:48 PM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC (in my mind)
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Two words. Mem Phis.
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Old 10-20-2008, 08:00 PM
 
Location: Villanova Pa.
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no NYC has lost most of its grit

newark, JC, Philly are all still gritty
Have you been to the Bronx in the past week? It has more grit than the entire city of Philadlephia. Then you have large swaths of the Queens/Brooklyn even Manhattan has a plethora of gritty neighborhoods?

Midtown Manhattan is about .005 of NYC's geographical area. Lets try and keep it real here.
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Old 10-20-2008, 08:03 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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just because they're doing good takes them out of the rustbelt? haha, that's not how it works
I'm pleased that FutureCop doesn't consider Pittsburgh the rustbelt...not that I fully agree though.

However, I very much think that when a city does well, it is removed from the rustbelt (like FutureCop said). Think of Philadelphia and NYC; these cities were the major manufacturing/industrial areas of our country. Today, few people will consider Philly or NYC rustbelt because their economies have diversified and are growing strong without industry. Why should they continue to carry the stigma of rustbelt?

In addition, Pittsburgh's economy is diversifying. We are now largely focused on technology, medicine, finance and education. We have a lower percentage of blue collar workers, and our economy is far more stable than other "rustbelt" cities.

Maybe it's time Pittsburgh lost the stigma of rustbelt?
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Old 10-20-2008, 08:07 PM
 
Location: moving again
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I guess some people see the rustbelt as bad. i don't. At all. Im kinda of sad that people from there don't want to consider themselves rustbelt though. Its always been the single city ive thought of when i was a kid when i guess more people considered it rustbelt. I agree, if you consider the rustbelt as a bad place, it is defiently losing its industrial areas and things. But the thing is, if you take it away from the rustbelt, it doesn't make much sense because its completely surrounded by more rustbelt type cities i guess you could say.
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Old 10-20-2008, 08:08 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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How exactly are we defining "grittiness" here?

Like the housting style, or ghettos, or what?
Yes, housing style can have grittiness. When I say "gritty" I don't necessarily mean ugly and I certainly don't mean slummy or ghetto-esq. Take a look at my picture of Pittsburgh's grittiness; structural density, exposed brick, no trees, all concrete, etc. Just a toughness about it. But those are just some of my thoughts about it; others might see things differently.
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Old 10-20-2008, 08:49 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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Wow! This looks like the first thing on City-Data that PA might win at!
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Old 10-20-2008, 09:00 PM
 
Location: Southeast Missouri
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St. Louis used to be a major manufacturer of brick, and it seems like most the city is made of brick. As far as that, I could see the grittiness.
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Old 10-20-2008, 10:20 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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St. Louis used to be a major manufacturer of brick, and it seems like most the city is made of brick. As far as that, I could see the grittiness.
I voted for St. Louis...it's got some good grit.
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