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Old 10-25-2008, 07:25 AM
 
Location: Scarsdale, NY
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2008 has been a violent year for crime in general. We have had four murders thus far this year in the city proper of Scranton (pop. 70,000) alone with quite a few more in the surrounding metropolitan area of 551,000. This comes on the heels of having 0 murders in a county of 200,000+ in 2006. People are on edge here in Northeastern Pennsylvania---windows are being locked, more people are getting car alarms, I've noticed a surge in ADT signs on front lawns, and people in our subdivisions no longer associate with their neighbors like they used to out of fear of being able to trust them. Gated communities are becoming popular as well.

Generally speaking the 2000s have just SUCKED! From 9/11 to Enron to Iraq to Afghanistan to the current recession to Katrina to the re-election of President Bush to the sub-prime mortgage crisis and everything in between I've never seen so many horribly depressed people in my midst. Will life ever get better?
That probably has a lot to do with the expanding NYC metro area. It's no longer the Tri-State Area, it's the Quad-State Area because Pike County, PA is now included in our metropolitan area. NYC crime has been expanding into places such as Spring Valley, Hempstead, Garden City, White Plains, Newburgh, Yonkers, Mt. Vernon, Nyack, New Rochelle, Newark, Jersey City, Bayonne, Paterson, Elizabeth, Irvington, and even further out areas such as Port Jervis, Atlantic City, etc.
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Old 10-25-2008, 07:32 AM
 
Location: Underneath the Pecan Tree
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Jennifer Hudson's mom was just murdered yesturday in Chicago as well.
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Old 10-25-2008, 07:36 AM
 
Location: from houstoner to bostoner to new yorker to new jerseyite ;)
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Jennifer Hudson's mom was just murdered yesturday in Chicago as well.
Yeah... that was in the opener, if you read it. Sad and tragic.
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Old 10-25-2008, 07:42 AM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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I think most of Chicago's homicides happen in the South and West sides of the city. The two murders yesterday are located on the South side. My dad lives on the Southwest side and he says the area is not bad but the city is having a bad year and it showed signs of that way back in April when they had 31 shootings on one weekend.
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Old 10-25-2008, 08:20 AM
 
Location: Galewood
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Murders have to happen in affluent neighborhoods before people start doing anything- otherwise it's just black on black crime
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Old 10-25-2008, 10:36 AM
 
Location: Scarsdale, NY
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An article on Yahoo reports that Jennifer Hudson's mother and brother were both found shot to death in their south side home and now Jennifer Hudson's nephew is missing.

http://omg.yahoo.com/news/jennifer-h...slayings/14614
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Old 10-25-2008, 10:55 AM
 
Location: Bronx, NY
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I can guarantee you that Chicago will not finish with more homicides than NYC. NYC has 6,000,000 more people to make up a 12 homicide adavantage. It has already seen a homicide increase of 8.1%, 416 this year compared to 384 last year. So Chicago is nothing special in that regard.

It will have a higher rate, but it wont have more homicides. NYC is always # 1.
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Old 10-25-2008, 11:03 AM
 
Location: Oak Park, IL
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I can guarantee you that Chicago will not finish with more homicides than NYC. NYC has 6,000,000 more people to make up a 12 homicide adavantage. It has already seen a homicide increase of 8.1%, 416 this year compared to 384 last year. So Chicago is nothing special in that regard.

It will have a higher rate, but it wont have more homicides. NYC is always # 1.
Back a few years ago, Chicago had the dubious honor of most homicides in a year for two years in a row.
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Old 10-25-2008, 11:05 AM
 
Location: Scarsdale, NY
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Where do most of those murder's take place....is there a list? Chicago is a huge city that was also many years behind NYC in being gentrified so it isn't shocking that there are more murders there, still even as it has become a World Class city. Plus the real murder capital is always the highest per/capita city...

For Boston, the Globe keeps an easily accessable list of the year's murders....and where do most of these homicides take place? All but ten or so of the 46 2008 murders took place in the 'traditional' low income minority neighborhoods outside of downtown Boston...and all but ten involved guns as the murder weapon...

As you said, more energy may need to go into these neighborhoods at the expense of perhaps another swank hotel or condominium downtown...be it Chicago, LA, NYC, Boston, Atl, Detroit....

Though odddly enough the last murder in Boston was on Sept 28th and it was in a upper middle class neighborhood where a husband killed his wife and then himself because he was going broke....

2008 homicides in Boston - Boston.com
Wow, how can a city go a month without a murder? That very, very, very, very, very, very, very rare for a city Boston's size.
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Old 10-25-2008, 11:16 AM
 
Location: Bronx, NY
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Back a few years ago, Chicago had the dubious honor of most homicides in a year for two years in a row.
Last year NYC was the murder capital. From 1971-1995 NYC was the murder capital every year. In 1996, Chicago had more. Then NYC was the murder capital for most years after that.
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