Why do people think redneck is the same as being Southern? (construction, gangs)

[ColdCanadian]

Originally Posted by msjbrent

It is not only choice of words it was the entire package. From occupation, educational status, lack of travel, ect. Go look for an argument, someone to blame or just be nasty with in Canada. Thanks.

But I still don't think there's anything ignorant about someone who's a garbage man who just has a highschool diploma and has never afforded to travel anywhere far away. I would consider that unfortuneate, but not ignorant.

Ignorance to me implies some kind of inconsiderate (or worse) behavior or attitudes toward others, and none of what you listed comes close. What does ignorance mean to you?

[carolinajack]

alot of people think the working class and working poor are trash, thats sad--i thought the Dems were for the working woman and man, the minority and poor---but they are here constantly talking about the poor

[msjbrent]

Originally Posted by ColdCanadian

But I still don't think there's anything ignorant about someone who's a garbage man who just has a highschool diploma and has never afforded to travel anywhere far away. I would consider that unfortuneate, but not ignorant.

Ignorance to me implies some kind of inconsiderate (or worse) behavior or attitudes toward others, and none of what you listed comes close. What does ignorance mean to you?

I orignally stated being rude was one charatertistic of these individuals I am describing. You ARE looking for an argument and I have no interest in discussing this any furthur with you. Have a nice.. and productive evening.

[Dedalus]

Originally Posted by ColdCanadian

But I still don't think there's anything ignorant about someone who's a garbage man who just has a highschool diploma and has never afforded to travel anywhere far away. I would consider that unfortuneate, but not ignorant.

Ignorance to me implies some kind of inconsiderate (or worse) behavior or attitudes toward others, and none of what you listed comes close. What does ignorance mean to you?

I knew this guy, his father was a steamfitter. And, a self taught expert on the Civ...err, War Between The States.


People do not need to have even come near a college to be highly educated. Harry Truman's a good example.

[ColdCanadian]

Originally Posted by msjbrent

I orignally stated being rude was one charatertistic of these individuals I am describing. You ARE looking for an argument and I have no interest in discussing this any furthur with you. Have a nice.. and productive evening.

I apologise if I misunderstood you.

There was a young chap on the message board a few months ago who classified practically everyone as ignorant for simple things like not having professions with influence, country club memberships, owning suits or gowns suitable for black tie affairs, plain cars, old cars; even knowing how to cook or fix things around the house he considered signs of ignorance.

[Travel'r]

One of my best friends down South classified himself as a "redneck".
He has all those classic sayings, too (which I can't repeat here, but one was on the order of "This dang weather! It's hottter out here than a .... billygoat at a ..... contest!" He says 'em all! Wish I could think of a tame one (too few & far between, if any).

I told him what I reckoned a "redneck" was: The polar opposite of pretentious :>)

[msjbrent]

Originally Posted by ColdCanadian

I apologise if I misunderstood you.

There was a young chap on the message board a few months ago who classified practically everyone as ignorant for simple things like not having professions with influence, country club memberships, owning suits or gowns suitable for black tie affairs, plain cars, old cars; even knowing how to cook or fix things around the house he considered signs of ignorance.

Well that is not me. I'll try and give you one example of where I was going with the idea of lack of education and when I said "classless". I was driving through Rural Alabama, god knows where, to Atlanta with my cousin who was 4 at the time. He had just been in an accident so his face looked bad. Black/Blue eyes, stiches, the works. We were standing in line at a gas station and two individuals said "Dab gummit boy you's lookin uglys". He started crying. So part of what I was trying to say was the kind of individuals I was describing do not know how to handle themselves, manners or etiquette. We ending up staying at a hotel that night and a Hurricane Dennis had just moved through the Gulf Coast and was moving up through the state. We woke up in the middle of the night hearing "Dun looks tomatoe". They kept saying what sounded like tomatoe. I finally figured out they were attempting to say 'tornado'. My little cousin from Chicago never wants to find himself in that area again!

[marysally]

I think we all can come up with examples of when we were treated badly in one part of the country or another. But to brand a whole state or part of the country because of an isolated incident is a mistake. I personally was made fun of as a child at my uncles wedding in Delaware because I am from Atlanta and they felt I had a Southern accent. In answer to msjbrent, I now live in AL (in a city that has the highest per capita ratio of PhD's in the nation). I am also a graduate of Emory University and have a MBA and an MS in Chemistry.

[msjbrent]

Originally Posted by marysally

I think we all can come up with examples of when we were treated badly in one part of the country or another. But to brand a whole state or part of the country because of an isolated incident is a mistake. I personally was made fun of as a child at my uncles wedding in Delaware because I am from Atlanta and they felt I had a Southern accent. In answer to msjbrent, I now live in AL (in a city that has the highest per capita ratio of PhD's in the nation). I am also a graduate of Emory University and have a MBA and an MS in Chemistry.

Man... I will say this for the LAST GD time. I am only stating where I have met this most ignorant people. It is my experience and I am not looking for anyone to try and argue it. PERIOD!

[anonymous]

Originally Posted by msjbrent

Well that is not me. I'll try and give you one example of where I was going with the idea of lack of education and when I said "classless". I was driving through Rural Alabama, god knows where, to Atlanta with my cousin who was 4 at the time. He had just been in an accident so his face looked bad. Black/Blue eyes, stiches, the works. We were standing in line at a gas station and two individuals said "Dab gummit boy you's lookin uglys". He started crying. So part of what I was trying to say was the kind of individuals I was describing do not know how to handle themselves, manners or etiquette. We ending up staying at a hotel that night and a Hurricane Dennis had just moved through the Gulf Coast and was moving up through the state. We woke up in the middle of the night hearing "Dun looks tomatoe". They kept saying what sounded like tomatoe. I finally figured out they were attempting to say 'tornado'. My little cousin from Chicago never wants to find himself in that area again!

Welcome to life outside the "yuppie bubble". What an awful experience it must have been to mistake the word "Tomato" for "Tornado". You must be scarred for life. And the guy making conversation.. we should track him down and bring him to justice!

And shame on those blue-collar Alabamans for speaking non-standard English, and not driving expensive cars! Everyone should have the same accent, values, and social mannerisms as an upper-middle class Chicagoan.