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View Poll Results: What's your race?
White non-hispanic 177 55.84%
Hispanic/Latino/Spanish (black or white) 28 8.83%
Asian 23 7.26%
Black or African American 56 17.67%
Other/Mixed 33 10.41%
Voters: 317. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 11-12-2008, 10:58 AM
Location: Brooklyn
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Originally Posted by Fred314X View Post
Race = human race. What the OP probably meant was ethnicity.
Yeah, but the choices are White, Black, Asian,,,
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Old 11-12-2008, 11:58 AM
Location: Philadelphia,New Jersey, NYC!
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Originally Posted by Sunil's Dad View Post
Where are you from? Sri Lanka, Malabar, Nicobar, Andamans?
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Old 11-12-2008, 12:02 PM
Location: Nome
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" nascar "

People are people no matter what color they are.
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Old 11-12-2008, 10:11 PM
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Hispanic - Dominican and Cuban.
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Old 11-16-2008, 02:24 AM
Location: SEA/HNL/OC
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im hawaiian.
wheres the hawaiian/pacific islander option!?
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Old 11-16-2008, 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by khyn View Post
im hawaiian.
wheres the hawaiian/pacific islander option!?
Good question.
Originally Posted by Lucidus View Post
There is one human genus, and one extant species in that genus. There is no meaningful definition of race, so theoretically you could arbitrarily define the number of races at any value >=0.
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Old 11-16-2008, 01:54 PM
Location: DFW Texas
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I think alot of us belong to at one time or another the same race.....THE RAT RACE!!!
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Old 11-16-2008, 03:20 PM
Location: Omaha
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Originally Posted by UrbanityRules View Post
Egad! A black man on city-data!!!!!!
Gosh dammit, you should just go away then.
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Old 11-16-2008, 07:39 PM
Location: Bay Ridge, NY
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Italian & Russian.
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Old 03-15-2010, 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by jonjj View Post
I don't believe in this term. It is antiquated. Recent DNA studies have proven that a Swede may be more genetically linked to an African or Asian than another Swede. The lines are so evasive. What makes a person white or black? What makes a person yellow or red? These are all OLD forms of bias meant to add to our collective stupidity. There are lots of "white" folks who look black and lots of "black" folks who look white. Let's try to stop the insane gereralities about people.

If we just take Africa and Europe, we can see the degrees of skin tone change gradually. At what point do we decide as a people to draw the line and say,"He's black or he's white"? Throw in those folks in the south Pacific and it becomes a real quandry.

We are one race--the human race. We come from different backgrounds and there may be seven degrees of separation but that's about it. I won't call myself white or any other generality.

My mother's family came from Quebec (French Canadian) but God only knows who everyone was messing with before that. My father's mother was an immigrant from Holland and his father was Menominee Indian. So, what does that make me? Are we that ignorant as a nation to refer to people like me as an Other?????? What the hell is that????

As people date and mate and life continues, these words will make a lot of sense. Let's get over it now because there are tons of folks who don't relate to these simplistic terms anymore.
That's why race is inseparable from ethnicity. If race were based solely on physical characteristics most of us would be plain mixed and we'd end up having different races within the same family or an extended family.

Originally Posted by Neutre View Post
Ethnicity, culture, and race based on physical characteristics are very closely intertwined.
Theoretically you could separate race and ethnicity (e.g. in the census), but that doesn't work in real life.
Even in the census you encounter all sorts of doubts, like Asians who physically are Black or Caucasian, although they're "100%" Asian. This shows how the so called Asian race is inseparable from ethnicity or culture. And then you also have native Europeans who physically look Asian (I've met a number of native Poles, Hungarians, and Greeks who do) or Black. There are also enough Africans (and African-Americans) who look Caucasian or Asian.
One thing that one forgets is that based solely on physical characteristics you often have these different races within one family or an extended family. I know an Indonesian family who has three kids. The eldest one looks Black with dark skin and black curly hair, her younger siblings are twins, a brother and a sister. He looks Asian with "the eyes" and dark brown wavy hair, whereas she looks Caucasian with light skin and straight dark brown hair. And I'm omitting other physical characteristics such as the shape/form of the nose, lips, hair distribution and density, protrusion of the brow ridge, cheek bones, eye color, stature, fat distribution, and a host of other features.
These cases are common all over the "old world" including Southeast, South, Central (including western China), West Asia, Oceania, Africa (Malagasy people of Madagascar are closer to Hawaiians than to Black Chadians, a lot of Bushmen in southern Africa look more like Asians), Russia, etc. Those Poles that are physically Asian probably have siblings or family who are Caucasian.
Are those people supposed to check different races in spite of them being in the same family?
Are these twins now supposed to check different races?
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Those Indonesian family I know would still consider themselves Asian because they're 100% Indonesian. Thus their race is based on their ethnicity or culture.
There are numerous Blacks who physically are White or Asian, yet consider themselves 100% Black. Again, their race is based on culture and ethnicity.
You also have Middle Easterners and Russians who are physically White yet don't consider themselves White at all (Don't forget that their siblings may look Black or Asian).
Basically what you call "race" in America is a mélange of race based on physical characteristics, ethnicity and culture. One may theoretically separate race and ethnicity and culture like in the census but that does not correspond to real life. This also explains why people continue considering Latino a race no matter how much education they have. I personally understand both sides. Those who say that Latino is not a race and those who treat Latino as a race. It is no wonder seeing how inseparably related race, ethnicity and culture are.
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