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Old 11-02-2008, 03:06 PM
 
Location: Southern Minnesota
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When news reporters hit the streets and ask people who they are going to vote for in this upcoming presidential election, I don't know why they even bother to ask black people who they are going to vote for when they know the obvious answer for damn near all of them is going to be Barack Hussein Obama. Everybody knows one of the most retarded questions in the world is asking a black person if he or she is going to vote for John McCain or Barack Obama.
I'm black. I'm voting for McCain.
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Old 11-02-2008, 03:07 PM
 
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Ummmm...IDK but I always have wondered why they keep a 90% voting rate for democrats and every year the complaints seem to be louder and louder....at some point you would think hey....I've been voting like this for a while and it's gotten me no say at all....maybe I'll change this year.
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Old 11-02-2008, 03:09 PM
 
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How insulting for you to suggest that AAs are so shallow as to use race as he only reason to vote for a candidate. What you need to understand is that Barack Obama is BY FAR the superior candidate here and he happens to be AA. Recognizing his superiority as a candidate, AAs overwhelmingly favor him. AAs are a people of great depth and people who are excellent judges of character. Obama clearly the better choice.

Also I see nothing wrong with Obama getting a more than favorable look from AAs since he is the FIRST EVER. THIS IS A HISTORICAL MOMENT considering this nation's shameful past and treatment of AAs. Only AAs truly understand what this man had to endure to get to this level, and he is to be admired.
Oh please. "AAs are a people of great depth and people who are excellent judges of character.". Spoken like a true San Franciscan. Why do new age types think "ethnic" people, as you would probably call them, have some sort of superior spirituality. Guess what: AAs, as you call them, are just people, and they come in all flavors - some are great judges of character, some are total idiots, just like everyone else.

One thing about Obama that makes me cringe a bit though is his "I'm one of you guys, I know how you feel" sales pitch. Sorry Barack, but you grew up in an upper-middle class environment - you don't have any more first hand experience on what growing up in the ghetto is like than me, a white from a poor background.
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Old 11-02-2008, 03:47 PM
 
Location: yeah
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African Americans usually always vote democratic regardless of whoever is running.
The thread shouldn't have run beyond this nugget of truth.
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Old 11-02-2008, 04:20 PM
 
Location: Jersey City
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If the majority of black people voted for political candidates JUST BECAUSE of race, I suppose Alan Keyes would've done much better with the "black vote."
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Old 11-02-2008, 07:49 PM
 
Location: Sun Diego, CA
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I think anyone that denies the statement of the OP is being naive, or blind to the facts.
The fact that the black vote has been in the mid-to-high 80 percentile for Obama, against Hillary Clinton says everything and nobody with a logical argument can deny that people have been voting Obama based on his race, rather than the issues. Hillary Clinton, a democrat, couldnt even get women voters to vote for her in such a high percentile. And Both Hillary and Obama were pretty much even handed. So you cant blame it on the fact that Obama is a democrat.

And people cant even point the finger the other way saying white people are voting for McCain because if it were true, and white people were (even at a moderate 70%) voting for McCain, Obama wouldnt be anywhere he's at currently in the election.

Against McCain, the black vote will likely be in the low 90 percentile for Obama, based on his race. Pretty sad that our next president will likely, based on the polls stats as of today, be elected not on his stance on issues, but because of his race.

Note, Im an independant, and not for McCain or Obama. In fact, both Obama and McCain's politics scare me. Obama because he's a closet socialist just waiting to come out. And McCain because he may likely be Bush part deux. Just callin it how I see it.

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Old 11-02-2008, 08:11 PM
 
Location: Underneath the Pecan Tree
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I think anyone that denies the statement of the OP is being naive, or blind to the facts.
The fact that the black vote has been in the mid-to-high 80 percentile for Obama, against Hillary Clinton says everything and nobody with a logical argument can deny that people have been voting Obama based on his race, rather than the issues. Hillary Clinton, a democrat, couldnt even get women voters to vote for her in such a high percentile. And Both Hillary and Obama were pretty much even handed. So you cant blame it on the fact that Obama is a democrat.

And people cant even point the finger the other way saying white people are voting for McCain because if it were true, and white people were (even at a moderate 70%) voting for McCain, Obama wouldnt be anywhere he's at currently in the election.

Against McCain, the black vote will likely be in the low 90 percentile for Obama, based on his race. Pretty sad that our next president will likely, based on the polls stats as of today, be elected not on his stance on issues, but because of his race.

Note, Im an independant, and not for McCain or Obama. In fact, both Obama and McCain's politics scare me. Obama because he's a closet socialist just waiting to come out. And McCain because he may likely be Bush part deux. Just callin it how I see it.
Just look on the internet or take a trip to Texas and you'll see why people say this. People are being attacked and having their Obama signs stolen and knocked down left and right. There was also recently a dragging somewhere in Texas as well.
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Old 11-02-2008, 09:23 PM
 
Location: USA
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I'm black. I'm voting for Obam because I think he's a better candidate. If you want, I could give you a laundry list of reasons.

I find it EXTREMELY insulting (to my intelligence, judgement, and race) to suggest that the only reason I'm voting for Obama is because he is black.

I could also give you a laundry list of black candidates I would never vote for (Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, etc etc etc).

How about people voted for Obama over Hillary Clinton because they thought he was a better candidate? Maybe you should stop and think about why so many voters DON'T vote for him...is it because he's a terrorist? His names Barack Hussein Obama? He's a muslim?

Give me a break.
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Old 11-02-2008, 09:40 PM
 
Location: 602/520
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Oh please. "AAs are a people of great depth and people who are excellent judges of character.". Spoken like a true San Franciscan. Why do new age types think "ethnic" people, as you would probably call them, have some sort of superior spirituality. Guess what: AAs, as you call them, are just people, and they come in all flavors - some are great judges of character, some are total idiots, just like everyone else.

One thing about Obama that makes me cringe a bit though is his "I'm one of you guys, I know how you feel" sales pitch. Sorry Barack, but you grew up in an upper-middle class environment- you don't have any more first hand experience on what growing up in the ghetto is like than me, a white from a poor background.
He and his mom were on food stamps. How is that upper-middle class?
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Old 11-02-2008, 10:06 PM
 
Location: Sun Diego, CA
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Just look on the internet or take a trip to Texas and you'll see why people say this. People are being attacked and having their Obama signs stolen and knocked down left and right. There was also recently a dragging somewhere in Texas as well.
I dont know anything about the dragging, but thats a hate crime that goes beyond politics. We are talking about the african-american vote for Obama.
Whereas, having signs stolen and knocked down happens to every candidate, big and small. Here in San Diego, the same thing happens in the local races for city attorney. Same stories as when I lived in Salt Lake City, same thing when I lived in H-Town.

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I'm black. I'm voting for Obam because I think he's a better candidate. If you want, I could give you a laundry list of reasons.

I find it EXTREMELY insulting (to my intelligence, judgement, and race) to suggest that the only reason I'm voting for Obama is because he is black.

I could also give you a laundry list of black candidates I would never vote for (Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, etc etc etc).

How about people voted for Obama over Hillary Clinton because they thought he was a better candidate? Maybe you should stop and think about why so many voters DON'T vote for him...is it because he's a terrorist? His names Barack Hussein Obama? He's a muslim?

Give me a break.
That's great that you know your politics, and reasons for voting Obama. I think that's great and I wish every person understood and educated themselves before voting. But the argument was never that every AA votes for Obama because he's black. But rather, the majority do which is disturbing and shameful of our "supposed" society that is supposed to look beyond racial barriers. The fact of the matter is, when you have tens of millions of a group, vote in the same fashion in unprecedented numbers (which will likely turn out to be 85%- low 90's %), there is alot more going on than informed voters voting on the merits of the person. Yes african-americans typically vote democrat anyway, but the percentages that are voting Obama now, and voted for him against Clinton who was on the same level as Obama, are/were so startling...GIVE ME A BREAK. We cant all be so naive as to whats happening and why people are voting a certain way.

I would be making the same argument PRO-OBAMA if statistical figures showed that whites were voting McCain in similar ways based on Obama's skin color, or the fact that his name is Barrack Hussein Obama. I would say its a bunch of bull**** that they wont vote for him based on his intelligence or political stances. But the fact is, whitey has been giving Obama the deserved equal treatment.
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