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Old 11-09-2008, 04:49 PM
 
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Florida would not be a single entity. Draw a line slightly south of Tampa, north of Orlando, and South of Cape Canaveral. Anything north of that would be with the rest of the South. Anything south of that would be kind of a Caribbean/American republic.
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Old 11-09-2008, 05:07 PM
 
Location: Portlandia "burbs"
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Before that happens we would unite with Mexico and Canada into a North American Union. Won't Canada love that. Their stellar border security would end.
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Old 11-09-2008, 06:10 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn
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You should tell your friend that if the country didn't fall apart under George W. Bush, then the republic is pretty safe now that he'll be leaving office.
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Old 11-10-2008, 01:43 AM
 
Location: Sacramento, CA
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If this were to happen than I would make the following changes:

-Quebec would also become its own nation
-parts of British Columbia would join with Cascadia
-Pennsylvania, Maryland, DC, and Northern Virginia would join New England.
-the Big Sky and Utah would probably join New Mexico
-the Great Plains may join Lincoln(I think Oklahoma would maybe go with Texas)
-I think northern California may go with Cascadia and Southern California would join with Baja.

I would love to see this happen, maye something like the EU. Have a very small governing body and let each state do their own thing.
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Old 11-10-2008, 01:54 AM
 
Location: New Hampshire
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I think he needs to get his definition of New England right. NY and NJ don't belong. And I don't think there's any way we'd ever want to join up with them.
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Old 11-10-2008, 03:56 AM
 
Location: Cold Frozen North
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I wouldn't see anything like this happening anytime soon. Things are nowhere near as bad to trigger any type of secession yet.
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Old 11-10-2008, 11:59 AM
 
Location: Chicago, Illinois
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It won't be state borders that will merge, it will be national borders. think mexico and 3rd world citizens flooding out country lowering wage rates thus making the rich richer. that's why i found it very funny that obama's entire campaign revolved around improving the middle class when in reality, obama is going to destroy it.
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Old 11-10-2008, 12:05 PM
 
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That's what's so funny about Bush / McCain supporters and immigration. Bush and McCain are BOTH pro-immigrant because they understand that much of the U.S. economy today is built on the willingness of illegal immigrants to work in near slavery conditions for under minimum wage. If anything Obama is more likely to support traditional U.S. workers, who are a major Democratic constituency.
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Old 11-10-2008, 12:16 PM
 
Location: Chicago, Illinois
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That's what's so funny about Bush / McCain supporters and immigration. Bush and McCain are BOTH pro-immigrant because they understand that much of the U.S. economy today is built on the willingness of illegal immigrants to work in near slavery conditions for under minimum wage. If anything Obama is more likely to support traditional U.S. workers, who are a major Democratic constituency.
Why do you think Obama won the Hispanic vote so strongly? he will legalize 12-16 million illegal aliens giving them benefits such as social security. the scary thing is both the legislative and executive branches are totally Democratic meaning they can pass whatever they want to.

The reason as to why America's so-called leaders, despite political allegiance, are for the immigrants is because they MUST replace the diminishing baby boomers who represent a large portion of the population compared to other generations. when the baby boomers die off, there will be more of everything on the market. meaning housing prices will go down further and there will be more job openings than bodies to fill them. but of course there is a plan for losing this large sector of the population.

the reason as to why America's so-called "leaders" are for immigrants is because someone has to replace the baby boomers. And latin americans have the highest birth rates out of anyone on Earth...thus an increased tax base and lower military age which is a better prospect than any European country can say where their average birth rate is 1.8 for every couple (2). Meaning, yes, they are losing population while the mean age of their country continues to grow older. This is not a good thing for any country.
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Old 11-10-2008, 12:29 PM
 
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Interesting and fun map to look at. And some good stuff presented.

However, no way would Delaware and Maryland be part of any "Southern Confederacy". For one thing, most people in those two states do not consider themselves part of the South much less Southerners. An affinity with a perceptual region counts for quite a bit...

Texas? While yep, she would be able to stand alone, and lots of things about my beloved Lone Star state lend itself to it being its own Republic? IMHO, eventually, if not outright, Texas would join her natural historical and cultural allies in the Southeast when it came down to brass tacks.
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