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Old 04-20-2012, 09:34 AM
 
Location: Buffalo
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Maybe it's this guys fault?
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Old 04-20-2012, 11:44 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MO
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Are you serious?

Portsmouth, Ohio
90.8% white
From the city data crime rate index

2009 2010
723.5 778.7

Louisville, MS
63.0 Black

Crime rate Index
2009 2010
121.8 174.7

Didn't you say every society blacks live in is represented by crime statistics?

Do the whites is Portsmouth want to be black then? Every race has violent people.

Funny. I never seem to witness these types of things in majority white or east asian neighborhoods. Urban decay, unemployment, poverty concentration, etc.

Why don't you take a trip down to Portsmouth, Ohio then. Where there is tons of urban decay, drugs, and white on white crime. Where prostitutes are running wild and people are poor.


The Side of Portsmouth, Ohio That You Rarely See - YouTube
I don't know anything about Portsmouth, haven't even looked it up yet, but it MUST be a burned-out industrial town, whose economy drew folks only to later be swept out from under them, essentially leaving them economically and socially stranded. That is basically the reason most ghettos exist. Is Portsmouth the worst majority white place you could find?

Anyway, so since you've picked out one of the most troubled white towns in the country, let's compare it to one of the most troubled black towns of a similar size, East St. Louis. Look at the murder rates, which should serve as an ultimate indiation of violence.

http://www.city-data.com/city/Louisv...ssissippi.html

http://www.city-data.com/city/Portsmouth-Ohio.html

http://www.city-data.com/city/East-S...-Illinois.html

Weird fact about Louisville, MS - it has a prominent building downtown with a swastika as an architectural centerpiece:

Louisville, Mississippi - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 04-20-2012, 11:52 PM
 
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Old 04-21-2012, 01:31 AM
 
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I don't know anything about Portsmouth, haven't even looked it up yet, but it MUST be a burned-out industrial town, whose economy drew folks only to later be swept out from under them, essentially leaving them economically and socially stranded. That is basically the reason most ghettos exist. Is Portsmouth the worst majority white place you could find?

Anyway, so since you've picked out one of the most troubled white towns in the country, let's compare it to one of the most troubled black towns of a similar size, East St. Louis. Look at the murder rates, which should serve as an ultimate indiation of violence.
Very interesting that the city you picked as a basis of comparison here, East St. Louis, is the poster child of "a burned-out industrial town, whose economy drew folks only to later be swept out from under them, essentially leaving them economically and socially stranded." Combine the economic hardship with the sociopolitical and cultural complexities that's germane to the African American population, and there's your explanation.
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Old 04-21-2012, 03:27 AM
 
Location: Kansas City, MO
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Very interesting that the city you picked as a basis of comparison here, East St. Louis, is the poster child of "a burned-out industrial town, whose economy drew folks only to later be swept out from under them, essentially leaving them economically and socially stranded." Combine the economic hardship with the sociopolitical and cultural complexities that's germane to the African American population, and there's your explanation.
There you go. It's not that difficult to have an understanding of why the ghettos exist. What's perplexing, and relevant to the title of this thread, is why there is so much violence.
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Old 04-21-2012, 07:32 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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There you go. It's not that difficult to have an understanding of why the ghettos exist. What's perplexing, and relevant to the title of this thread, is why there is so much violence.
But this is especially relevant since ghettos, or more accurately, run-down areas permit violence because they lack the necessary economic and social infrastructure to adequately combat violence. Depopulation in many of these areas hasn't left enough people to watch the streets at most times. Combined with high unemployment, low housing occupancy rates leads to breakdown in the unspoken contract between residents. It's no coincidence that the highest violent crime rates are found in the most run-down cities (St. Louis, Baltimore, Detroit).
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Old 04-21-2012, 04:52 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MO
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But this is especially relevant since ghettos, or more accurately, run-down areas permit violence because they lack the necessary economic and social infrastructure to adequately combat violence. Depopulation in many of these areas hasn't left enough people to watch the streets at most times. Combined with high unemployment, low housing occupancy rates leads to breakdown in the unspoken contract between residents. It's no coincidence that the highest violent crime rates are found in the most run-down cities (St. Louis, Baltimore, Detroit).
It's called white-flight and in more recent history is more accurately middle-class flight. I agree that the result of said trends is a huge problem. The lowest demographics segregated to themselves have a hard time fending for themselves. There's little to no hierarchy to provide a structure or an example to show what is realistic and can be strived for (basically, the American Dream). Life is short, so the only choice for the average person is to escape when and if they ever can. Unfortunately, I see the middle-class flight still occuring to this day and in many cities, such as mine, inner-ring suburban school districts are becoming increasingly segregated by socio-economic status. The middle-to-upper-middle classes are leaving what were at least decent or average school districts and areas to be in those rated the best - bleeding those decent districts of their best, leaving the rest to fend for themselves.The haves or have nots have become largely separated and it continues to become worse.

Our country has a huge problem with segregation. While most areas are becoming more ethnically and racially integrated, socio-economic segregation is already firmly rooted and moving full-speed ahead. And this is all occuring within the masses and has nothing to do with truly rich people. Those in the working-middle class and up are separating themselves from the poor working class to lower class. Of course, it's hard to blame people, especially with kids, from shielding themselves with distance from the troubles that plague those below a certain socio-economic line. A large part of the problem is the lack of good working-class jobs (manufacturing, one example) to fill the gap between those working at fast-food restaurants and Walmart and those with college degrees working semi-professional jobs. If you aren't college material, even if you want the American Dream and a legit life, you can feel hopeless. So why not just abuse drugs, party, and maybe make some money illegally somehow to get a chunk of change to enjoy for a while?
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Old 04-22-2012, 10:02 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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It's called white-flight and in more recent history is more accurately middle-class flight. I agree that the result of said trends is a huge problem. The lowest demographics segregated to themselves have a hard time fending for themselves. There's little to no hierarchy to provide a structure or an example to show what is realistic and can be strived for (basically, the American Dream). Life is short, so the only choice for the average person is to escape when and if they ever can. Unfortunately, I see the middle-class flight still occuring to this day and in many cities, such as mine, inner-ring suburban school districts are becoming increasingly segregated by socio-economic status. The middle-to-upper-middle classes are leaving what were at least decent or average school districts and areas to be in those rated the best - bleeding those decent districts of their best, leaving the rest to fend for themselves.The haves or have nots have become largely separated and it continues to become worse.

Our country has a huge problem with segregation. While most areas are becoming more ethnically and racially integrated, socio-economic segregation is already firmly rooted and moving full-speed ahead. And this is all occuring within the masses and has nothing to do with truly rich people. Those in the working-middle class and up are separating themselves from the poor working class to lower class. Of course, it's hard to blame people, especially with kids, from shielding themselves with distance from the troubles that plague those below a certain socio-economic line. A large part of the problem is the lack of good working-class jobs (manufacturing, one example) to fill the gap between those working at fast-food restaurants and Walmart and those with college degrees working semi-professional jobs. If you aren't college material, even if you want the American Dream and a legit life, you can feel hopeless. So why not just abuse drugs, party, and maybe make some money illegally somehow to get a chunk of change to enjoy for a while?

Well said. I don't think we disagree.
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Old 08-13-2015, 07:08 PM
 
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Raly just realax its all be over soon did don't trip OK we got this.(limetless)
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Old 08-13-2015, 07:18 PM
 
Location: Springfield, Ohio
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We're an individualistic society built on violence who loves its guns. To answer your question, I have no idea.
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