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Old 12-01-2008, 06:34 PM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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For at least 20 years now, it's been common to refer to "Boswash," as a single urbanized entity--virtually a single metropolitan area--stretching from Boston to Washington, DC. So we've all been annexed!
No, that's a megalopolis.

Metropolitan Areas are way more interdependent.
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Old 12-01-2008, 06:39 PM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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The last major consolidation was Providence being combined with Boston, it surpassed the 15% threshold of commuters headed into the Boston MSA.

A fast approaching consolidation is Stockton, CA as it currently sends about 13% of its workers to the SF CSA. I think that could happen as soon as 2010-maybe a few years after.

Also, Stockton and Modesto are fast becoming more and more interdependent jobwise, their combined population is 1.1 Million so I think by 2020 they might be combined as one MSA and part of the greater SF CSA.

Other than that, further out I see Monterey and Santa Cruz(already part of the Bay Area) perhaps combining and in the North Bay, Id say Lake and Mendocino Counties are good candidates to be combined with the Bay Area.
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Old 12-01-2008, 06:41 PM
 
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NYC and Boston metros are becoming very close - nearly touching. I think there is only one small county in Connecticut (Tolland) separating the NYC metro from the Boston metro.

As for Boston being annexed - it'll never happen. Big difference in culture - and CT is the mutt.
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Old 12-03-2008, 11:28 PM
 
Location: Live in VA, Work in MD, Play in DC
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What is the latest categorization of Baltimore and Washington? The last I saw, maybe a couple of years ago, they were still two separate MSA's which together were the principal cities of a CSA. If and when these two form one MSA, that might be a candidate. Otherwise, I would think it would be somewhere in the Sun Belt. I don't really know, but I'll throw out another possibility. This would be southeastern FL, if I've heard correctly that Miami and Palm Beach have recently merged into one MSA.
Actually, Baltimore and Washington was considered one MSA until the Census 2000 when the Census Bureau split the two apart.
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Old 12-04-2008, 01:31 AM
 
Location: Twin Cities, Minnesota
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What about Denver, Colorado Springs, Pueblo, Fort Collins, Loveland, Boulder, and Aurora? Could it be considered the Front Range Metro?
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Old 12-04-2008, 01:35 AM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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What about Denver, Colorado Springs, Pueblo, Fort Collins, Loveland, Boulder, and Aurora? Could it be considered the Front Range Metro?
Denver, Aurora and Boulder are already part of the same 'Combined Statistical Area'
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Old 12-04-2008, 01:50 AM
 
Location: Tijuana Exurbs
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A fast approaching consolidation is Stockton, CA as it currently sends about 13% of its workers to the SF CSA. I think that could happen as soon as 2010-maybe a few years after.

Also, Stockton and Modesto are fast becoming more and more interdependent jobwise, their combined population is 1.1 Million so I think by 2020 they might be combined as one MSA and part of the greater SF CSA.
Montclair, do you have any statistics on the amount of cross-commuting between Stockton and Sacramento? To my eye that would appear to be the more likely MSA consolidation. But I guess if the Bay Area has the stronger job lure, maybe Sacto will miss out.
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Old 12-04-2008, 02:11 AM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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Montclair, do you have any statistics on the amount of cross-commuting between Stockton and Sacramento? To my eye that would appear to be the more likely MSA consolidation. But I guess if the Bay Area has the stronger job lure, maybe Sacto will miss out.
Yeah,
Sacramento is logically better positioned to add Stockton but the worker flow is just much stronger west than north.

Stockton to Sacramento: 7,141 daily workers in 2000

Stockton to the Bay Area: 34,117 daily commuters in 2000
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Old 12-04-2008, 02:44 AM
 
Location: New Hampshire
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NYC and Boston metros are becoming very close - nearly touching. I think there is only one small county in Connecticut (Tolland) separating the NYC metro from the Boston metro.
That's not true. The NYC CSA only includes the three westernmost counties in CT (Fairfield, New Haven, and Litchfield), none of which are part of the core NYC MSA.

The Boston CSA doesn't extend into CT at all (the western extent is Worcester county and RI), and the MSA doesn't even reach Worcester.

Eastern CT (Windham, Tolland, New London, and Middlesex counties) has a much lower population density than the rest of the state, and in fact this area (in addition to western RI) forms the only real rural "gap" in the BosWash corridor.

So as for Boston not being absorbed by NYC - I agree with you completely.
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Old 12-04-2008, 07:44 AM
 
Location: Dorchester
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I hope Hartford doesn't sprawl east. That stretch from Hartford to Worcester is a beautiful and unspoiled stretch in the Bos/Wash Corridor.
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