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Old 12-21-2008, 01:15 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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Football in the northeast sucks and there aren't really any good teams
Patriots, Steelers, Giants...yeah, we have no good football teams.
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Old 12-21-2008, 01:23 PM
 
Location: Houston Texas
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Patriots, Steelers, Giants...yeah, we have no good football teams.
Those are pro teams, not college teams. However, the Northeast has some teams in college which seem to do well. Pitt Panthers, Penn State and Boston College all have good teams usually.
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Old 12-21-2008, 01:44 PM
 
Location: yeah
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Patriots, Steelers, Giants...yeah, we have no good football teams.
Northeast?
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Old 12-21-2008, 01:49 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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Northeast?
Please tell what is Pittsburgh if not Northeast? Seriously.
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Old 12-22-2008, 09:40 AM
 
Location: Boston
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they would rather give a full scholarship to someone who is academically talented and not based on how high they can jump or how fast they can run.
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Old 12-22-2008, 09:51 AM
 
Location: roaming gnome
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It has a lot to do with where the talent is. The northeast is completely bare when it comes to football talent. Even the midwest, where football is popular, schools choose to come south to Florida and Texas for many of their college players.

http://www.mapgameday.com/ResultsbyState.pdf

This is from 2008, and for just a few examples of how many Division 1 football players were recruited from each state:
New Jersey high schools produced 50
New York high schools produced 24
Massachussetts high schools produced 7

Ohio high schools produced 146
Pennsylvania high schools produced 79
Illinois high schools produced 63

Florida high schools produced 358
Georgia high schools produced 158
Alabama high schools produced 95
Louisiana high schools produced 82
Mississippi high schools produced 74

you get the picture. It is hard for the northeastern schools to compete with their local talent. Boston College has 7 potential in-state prospects to choose from, LSU has 82. You can add up the entire northeast and it is about as talent-rich as the state of Georgia.
ding ding ding

plus they practice year round...

in Contrast the NE is going to have a ton of basketball talent...for same reasons.
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Old 12-22-2008, 10:07 AM
 
Location: Dorchester
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Why do you go to school?


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Old 12-22-2008, 06:22 PM
 
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There are several Division I football schools in N.C., TX, FL, and at least 2 or more in every state...I can't think of any state that has only 1 football school. Allegiances are split among just as many universities everywhere else as in the East.

Major football programs in the Northeast: Pitt, Rutgers, Boston College, Syracuse, UConn, Penn St....Good IAA programs: Villanova, New Hampshire, UMass, Colgate, etc...and even though the Ivy League isn't nationally significant, the fierce competition and tradition of the league keeps it relevant. I won't even go into all of the quality basketball, lacrosse, soccer, etc. teams at the Northeastern schools. I have no idea why there is such disinterest there.
Pretty much in a nutshell. I think Syracuse and Penn State have the best atmospheres in the Northeast. Syracuse just needs to start winning again to get that atmosphere back into the Carrier Dome. Rutgers is coming along and BC and Pitt have have great traditions. Army also has a great atmosphere at Michie Stadium. Even University of Buffalo and UConn are coming along well too. Temple's problem seems to be facilites and having a rep of being a losing program. It's been a while for them.
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Old 12-22-2008, 06:28 PM
 
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ding ding ding

plus they practice year round...

in Contrast the NE is going to have a ton of basketball talent...for same reasons.
Also have to consider the number of D1 programs in those states. NY has 3, including Army. Massachusetts has BC. NJ has Rutgers and quite a few players from South Jersey go to Temple in Philly. PA has 3 D1 programs with all of them being state affiliated, unlike NY which only has one that is and that program is only 10 years old. Then, there's UConn, another program that is about 10 years old in D1. A lot of the HS football talent in NY goes to D1-AA(or subdivision schools) like Colgate, Hofstra, Stony Brook, Albany, Fordham, Wagner, Columbia and Cornell. Also, D3 schools are pretty big here too. Schools like Cortland, Ithaca, Hobart, Hartwick, Brockport, Alfred and so on play at a high level in that division too. Check out the Cortaca Jug game between Ithaca and Cortland for instance. Always a good game between two very good D3 programs in Central NY.
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Old 12-25-2008, 12:21 AM
 
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Your argument would be true if college football were designed to have parity. But in reality, there's a huge difference between SEC, Big 12, and Big 10 talent than Temple or Utah State.
False.
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