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Old 01-07-2009, 10:43 AM
 
Location: NE PA
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That's B.S.

College football predates NFL football.
But that's what it has evolved into, a minor league for the NFL. Players pick a school based on their ability get noticed on national TV and go to the NFL. The corporate-sponsored bowl games, the biased rankings, etc. Its all about the $$$.

You want a more pure level of football...go watch a Div III game, those guys are doing it for the love of the game and nothing else.
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Old 01-07-2009, 11:01 AM
 
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I see both sides of the argument. I really just keep up with G-Tech (and the ACC) in college football but I do keep up with all of the NFL. I get the fact that in college football there's usually two sides to choose from in the state and with me I used to sort of look down on college football until I went to a Vols game when I lived in TN a couple of years ago and it was loud and lively. I like the NFL a little more because that's the high-quality football with better overall talent. The thing about the NFL I like is that they're ran correctly and I like college football because you get to see the standout and pick their game apart.
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Old 01-07-2009, 01:25 PM
 
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Loyalty to their school? Yeah right....then why do so many bail out early for the NFL? Div. I-A college football exists for one reason, as a feeder to the NFL. You might have a point if you were talking about Div. II or III, but I-A? No way. The almighty dollar rules Div I A college football, and most of those players are taking up scholarships they don't even deserve, especially at a lot of southern schools, where reading isn't even a requirement.
Alot of those guys at those southern schools are the reason why MOST of your northern NFL teams are good. There the ones fueling the Big Leagues. Everybody has to start somewhere. They werent born NFL players, and thats why we like college football so much down here. But I still love the NFL a little tad bit more.
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Old 01-07-2009, 06:34 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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Bottom line is that college football is basically the minor leagues. I think the question should be flipped around, and we should ask why people in the south and the midwest go nuts over what is basically minor league football? Here in PA, Penn State football is big, but its still not as big as the Eagles or Steelers.
here's the reason why. It's because in college football, the tradition is better, the pageantry is better, the rivalries are better, the atmosphere is better, and the game is more pure and better than the NFL. The fans are more into the game at college games compared to the NFL. I LOVE the NFL, but it does not touch college football in those regards.
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Old 01-07-2009, 06:46 PM
 
Location: San Antonio
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Alot of those guys at those southern schools are the reason why MOST of your northern NFL teams are good. There the ones fueling the Big Leagues.
Good to see that southern schools have some useful purpose.
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Old 01-07-2009, 08:56 PM
 
Location: On the Great South Bay
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1) The Northeast is home to some of the United States' biggest cities, and perhaps more importantly these cities in many cases have metro areas in multiple states. New York and Philadelphia (3 primary states for each) are the best example of this, and Boston is the primary city for 5 1/2 states.

2) The Northeast cities are very close together, so they tend to think in terms of rivalries with each other than with rivalries between states. Stated another way, pro sports rivalries have always meant a lot more in the northeastern states.

3) Most Northeast states are very small in geographic size. The small sizes limited the geographic scope of college teams' fanbases (with the exception of Penn State, which not coincidentally is in one of the two largest northeastern states).

4) Most northeastern states (in particular New York state) do not have big land grant universities. The land grant universities are usually the schools that have the big time college football programs. In New York state, there are a bunch of State University of New York schools, dispersing the state's students away from one big university and into a whole bunch of smaller ones.

5) The state university of New Jersey is not called New Jersey State or the University of New Jersey. It is called Rutgers. Most people don't realize Rutgers IS the State University of New Jersey.

6) Penn, which was a football power in the first half of the 1900's, deemphasized football in the late 1940's/early 1950's and joined the Ivy League.

7) Football is less popular in New England than any other part of the country.
Alot of good points here. Not many people know that about Rutgers. I have no idea about points 6 and 7 but I will take your word it lol.

Also not sure if anyone mentioned it but the large number of Pro teams in America's smallest region pretty much put a Pro team within a few hours drive of even most rural areas. At least for the last few decades.

I count Boston, NYC/NJ(2 teams), Philadelphia, Baltimore/Washington, Pittsburgh and Buffalo/Toronto. Syracuse and I believe Penn State? - two of the stronger college teams happen to play in the "gaps" between the above cities.
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Old 01-07-2009, 09:18 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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here's the reason why. It's because in college football, the tradition is better, the pageantry is better, the rivalries are better, the atmosphere is better, and the game is more pure and better than the NFL. The fans are more into the game at college games compared to the NFL. I LOVE the NFL, but it does not touch college football in those regards.
Pure? Are you familiar with the CU football sex scandal? And they are just the ones who got caught! Also a number of arrests recently, mostly for things like DUI.
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Old 01-07-2009, 09:41 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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OK, I just read through the whole thread. Here are some of my thoughts:

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Generally though, I always got the impression that New England schools put the money into academics instead of athletics.
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Because they focus on academics and culture. Sports to them are superficial.
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they would rather give a full scholarship to someone who is academically talented and not based on how high they can jump or how fast they can run.
All very self-righteous and sanctimonious

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Northeast NFL Teams: 1. Patriots 2. Jets 3. Eagles 4. Giants 5. Bills 6. Steelers 7. Ravens

South NFL Teams: 1. Panthers 2. Redskins 3. Falcons 4. Jaguars 5. Dolphins 6. Saints 7. Bucs
8. Titans 9. Cowboys 10. Texans

West NFL Teams: 1. Chargers 2. Cardinals 3. 49ers 4. Seahawks 5. Raiders

Midwest NFL Teams: 1. Bears 2. Vikings 3. Packers 4. Lions 5. Rams 6. Broncos 7. Chiefs 8. Bengals 9. Browns 10. Colts

There are more NFL teams in the South and the Midwest than in the Northeast...and those are the two biggest college football fan areas also.
The Broncos are a western team!

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yeah, i find this whole "WE ARE PENN STATE" thing to be weird....

who's this "WE"??
Only the eastern half of the state. The western half goes for Pitt.

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What are you talking about? The most physically fit cities in the country are in the Northeast and some of the most devoted, insane, and obnoxious fans in sports are in the Northeast. Sports here are a way of life fom Boston to New York to Buffalo to Philly.
The most physically fit city in the country is Denver, I believe, according to most of these "lists".
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Old 01-07-2009, 09:45 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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I just can't understand how in the world you can say you love NFL but hate college football. That's about like saying you love pizza but you hate tomato, cheese, pepperoni and all the other ingredients that go into it or I love cars but I despise auto factories. Northeasterners (with the exception of Pennsylvania maybe) are hypocrites. How can you sit there and say I love the Giants, Patriots, Redskins, etc. etc. but hate college ball when the guys you're cheering on to take your team to victory are all products of big Universities in the SEC or Big 10, Texas, Ok, etc. The NFL stars you love so much would probably be insulted to hear you bashing the college sport and schools that molded them into the players they are today. With out these places you're beloved NFL would not exist plain and simple or it would exist at a level of play that no one would want to see.

Besides you'll never see the type of excitment and enthusiasm you see in the stands at big time college games anywhere else.

I think it all boils down to alot of people in the Northeast love NFL because there are a lot of really good NFL teams with long tradition in the North East and they hate college ball because their college teams for the most part really bite.
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Old 01-07-2009, 10:46 PM
 
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Good to see that southern schools have some useful purpose.
It is useful. I agree Irishtom.
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