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Old 09-10-2009, 10:50 PM
 
Location: Silver Spring, MD/Washington DC
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Getting back to the pro football/college football discussion, I personally can't fully get into college football because of the lack of a playoff system. I just shake my head when people say a playoff system would minimize the importance of the regular season - I have yet to see an NFL regular season ruined or minimized because 12 teams out of 32 qualify for the postseason. In fact, the NFL regular season is enhanced because there are a limited number of games and relatively few playoff spots, factors that would be true (and in some ways even more true) if Division I-A college football had a playoff system. Additionally, NFL games usually are more competitive than college football games because the talent gap between most teams is fairly small (hence the "on any given Sunday" axiom).
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Old 09-11-2009, 08:01 AM
 
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Overall the South has slightly better talent than the North in producing football players. But, don’t act like the Northeast doesn’t produce anything. The #1 state that you love to hate on this site produced the best top notch talent in the 2009 NFL draft. New Jersey has seven first-rounders taken in NFL Draft
I'm not "acting like" anything, I'm posting the data, stating the facts.

Sure, Jersey had a good year in 2009. Each state has their up and down years. Let's look at the bigger picture, keeping in mind that NJ is the best the northeast has to offer in terms of home grown football talent.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/draft-history-graphic.htm
First round draft picks by state, 1990-2009, selected states:

New Jersey - 21
Pennsylvania - 17
New York - 8
Massachussetts - 4
Connecticut - 3
ME, NH, VT, MA, RI - 0

compare to:

Florida - 80
Georgia - 34
North Carolina - 24
South Carolina - 24
Louisiana - 23
Virginia - 19
Alabama - 17
Mississippi - 16
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Old 09-11-2009, 02:31 PM
 
Location: Concrete jungle where dreams are made of.
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Yeah right, hockey is a girlyman's game. They hug and dance with each other more than throw any real punches.
Yeah, all those bloody fights and they're just dancing around with one another on the ice. I'd like to see you go against a hockey player if you think they aren't tough. I'm sure that might change your mind.
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Old 09-11-2009, 03:05 PM
 
Location: MI
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Yeah, all those bloody fights and they're just dancing around with one another on the ice. I'd like to see you go against a hockey player if you think they aren't tough. I'm sure that might change your mind.
Been there and done that.....had a kid from Mass (a hockey player) move into the neighborhood when I was 17, stomped him silly one day after school. Moderator cut: see comment

Last edited by Bo; 09-14-2009 at 10:36 PM.. Reason: This was explained in the DM I sent to you.
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Old 09-14-2009, 10:29 PM
 
Location: Austin, Texas
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And of course I should have known when I saw the other thread that there was probably a thread just like it that was already on it's billionth page...so here is my stance in a nutshell.

Because there isn't as much football talent coming out of the northeast and new england as other parts of the country...so they can't really field teams with their own players from the region that are competitive.

Also:

College Ball

Tradition
Passion
Exciting
Loud
Charm
Rivalries
History

NFL

Comercialized
sterile
not true ties to the region or city

I will say the NFL has college beat with the playoff system...but that's about it.

And before I go:

Leave it to city data to turn a thread about football into a thread about hockey...seriously?
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Old 09-15-2009, 11:10 AM
 
Location: Albany (school) NYC (home)
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Our states schools also really aren't that big compared to southern ones. Except for PSU, Rutgers, UCONN and UMass Amherst.

I know at my school we are mostly a basketball school. Thats the season we live for.
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Old 09-15-2009, 03:16 PM
 
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Our states schools also really aren't that big compared to southern ones. Except for PSU, Rutgers, UCONN and UMass Amherst.

I know at my school we are mostly a basketball school. Thats the season we live for.
You forgot Temple, Pitt, Maryland, UBuffalo.
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Old 09-15-2009, 03:17 PM
 
Location: Toronto
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Because i'd assume hockey replaced that void, goes with midwest too.
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Old 09-15-2009, 05:09 PM
 
Location: Albany (school) NYC (home)
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You forgot Temple, Pitt, Maryland, UBuffalo.
Temple and Pitt aren't state schools. Aren't they private? Aw yes UMD. But one can argue that UMD and UDel are borderline southern. But I forgot about them.

UBuffalo and UAlbany(Go Great Danes!) both are large. Actually I don't know why they don't have a better football program.
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Old 09-15-2009, 05:18 PM
 
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Temple and Pitt aren't state schools. Aren't they private? Aw yes UMD. But one can argue that UMD and UDel are borderline southern. But I forgot about them.

UBuffalo and UAlbany(Go Great Danes!) both are large. Actually I don't know why they don't have a better football program.
No, we're both state schools.
UMD and UDel aren't southern at all.
UB has a good football program. They beat us on a hailmary to win the MAC East and then won the MAC Championship last year.
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