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Old 06-15-2009, 06:55 PM
 
Location: IN
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Yes weather is a huge part of what I'm not dying to move back to Texas myself. I really hated Texas in the summertime. I remember in August of 99, it was 100 degrees EVERY DAY for the entire month. On Labor Day of 2000, every city in the state (well at least where I was at) was around 110. It can get unbearably hot. But that's the extreme you have to take compared to the extreme bitter cold of the Midwest and East Coast. personally, I find Texas AND California weather boring. Give me the seasons.
Agreed.
TX is just so far south in latitude and the sun angle is insanely intense with the hot temperatures.
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Old 06-15-2009, 07:03 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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Agreed.
TX is just so far south in latitude and the sun angle is insanely intense with the hot temperatures.
This is true. I think people don't realize that the Southern parts of our country are at the same latitude as countries in Northern Africa such as Morocco and Egypt. Houston is actually further south than Cairo for example.
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Old 06-15-2009, 10:50 PM
 
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Yes it will be very interesting to see the population numbers for Fresno, Modesto, Stockton (why would anyone want to live there on purpose though lol, and Bakersfield) when census 2010 comes out.
Fresno and Bakersfield were not as influenced by commuters seeking housing because of their distance from Bay Area and Southern California jobs.

Fresno would be a 3 to 4 hour commute each way to either the Bay Area or Southern Calif jobs, I don't think there are very many people that would try that.

California Dept of Finance numbers (which are usually pretty good estimates) as of January 1 2009 have Stockton and Modesto at low growth in 2008, they were estimated at 0.7% and 0.8% population growth respectively.

Earlier in the decade they were seeing annual growth rates around 2%.

The same source had Bakersfield at an estimated 1.9% growth rate in 2008.

Fresno had an estimated 2.2% growth rate in 2008.
http://www.dof.ca.gov/research/demographic/reports/estimates/e-1/2008-09/documents/E-1%202009%20Internet%20Version.xls (broken link)

We will see what the census says in a year or two.
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Old 06-16-2009, 07:30 AM
 
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The one big negative in my opinion is the fact that TX has much less desirable weather compared to most of CA. Let's see... TX is already in the 100s for high temps. Electricity costs in TX are some of the highest in the country due to deregulation measures taken a few years ago. Hot temperatures= insanely high bills due to AC usage. Building codes in TX have to be strengthened to account for this. Property taxes in TX are also extremely high as well.
1. Not all of Texas has much less desirable weather than CA. Parts of W. Texas can be somewhat comparable, in fact.

2. Only Dallas/Ft. Worth and Houston have "deregulated" electricity, as far as I know. Cities served by municipal utilities like San Antonio, Lubbock, Austin, etc. have much lower rates.

3. "Green" homes are becoming more popular in the state because of the hot temps. Also, this weather is normally reserved for July and August. The reason for it is probably La Nina.

4. Property taxes are high, but the income tax is zero, and the state has better financial health than most.

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Old 06-16-2009, 02:07 PM
 
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WOuld argue people migrate there because its cheaper and you can buy a big house there after you sell your small one here in CA. Also, it seems its pretty easy to change things in texas to be sort of like California as the landscape is conducive to driving..building strip malls as opposed to somewhere like pennsylvania or vermont .etc

its pretty easy to find jobs in texas for californians as well...usually CA'ers have more experience/degrees etc
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Old 06-16-2009, 11:11 PM
 
Location: Zurich, Switzerland/ Piedmont, CA
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WOuld argue people migrate there because its cheaper and you can buy a big house there after you sell your small one here in CA.
That's the number one reason-by far.

These 2 towns have similar demographics as far as income-but look at how much more you get for the money in TX. Amazing.

Palo Alto, CA
$1,899,000


Southlake, TX
$1,899,000


^A house like that in Palo Alto would be at least $10 Million. Maybe even $20M.
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Old 06-17-2009, 06:28 PM
 
Location: Cold Frozen North
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that's the number one reason-by far.

These 2 towns have similar demographics as far as income-but look at how much more you get for the money in tx. Amazing.

Palo alto, ca
$1,899,000


southlake, tx
$1,899,000


^a house like that in palo alto would be at least $10 million. Maybe even $20m.
wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 06-17-2009, 06:42 PM
 
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That's the number one reason-by far.

These 2 towns have similar demographics as far as income-but look at how much more you get for the money in TX. Amazing.

Palo Alto, CA
$1,899,000


Southlake, TX
$1,899,000


^A house like that in Palo Alto would be at least $10 Million. Maybe even $20M.
The PA home looks like a smaller craftsman / California bungalow where they tried to turn it into a mini Mc Mansion. Looks like the foundation is tilted on the older part ... ooooooooops!
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Old 06-17-2009, 09:55 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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That's the number one reason-by far.

These 2 towns have similar demographics as far as income-but look at how much more you get for the money in TX. Amazing.

Palo Alto, CA
$1,899,000


Southlake, TX
$1,899,000


^A house like that in Palo Alto would be at least $10 Million. Maybe even $20M.
Good Job. I show my co-workers this in DC all the time by comparing similar demographics as far as income from DC to what is in Texas and they are always amazed at that as well.
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Old 06-17-2009, 10:05 PM
 
Location: IN
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That's the number one reason-by far.

These 2 towns have similar demographics as far as income-but look at how much more you get for the money in TX. Amazing.

Palo Alto, CA
$1,899,000


Southlake, TX
$1,899,000


^A house like that in Palo Alto would be at least $10 Million. Maybe even $20M.
It looks like a castle in TX.
The price comparisons are amazing. I would absolutely hate the heat, intense sun, and overall lack of forests (minus the piney woods) in TX.
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