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Old 12-11-2008, 11:10 AM
 
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Yeah, I can't think of one good match between southern and northern cities.

Pittsburgh and Birmingham?
Detroit and Memphis?

Even those are pretty weak.

Northern cities are true "cities" - areas where people tend to embrace high-density residential, mass transit, etc.
Southern cities are big towns. Even urban southerners (like a lot of my friends) have this "urban cowboy" mindset, where they want their farm lifestyle with city amenities. I picture the stereotypical white-collar southerner who wakes up every morning at his half-acre McMansion in suburbia, puts on his Red Wing boots, and drives his F-250 diesel into Dallas, Charlotte, Atlanta, Houston, etc. to his office job.

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Old 12-11-2008, 11:29 AM
 
Location: West Seattle, WA
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Yeah, I can't think of one good match between southern and northern cities.

Pittsburgh and Birmingham?
Detroit and Memphis?

Even those are pretty weak.

Northern cities are true "cities" - areas where people tend to embrace high-density residential, mass transit, etc.
Southern cities are big towns. Even urban southerners (like a lot of my friends) have this "urban cowboy" mindset, where they want their farm lifestyle with city amenities. I picture the stereotypical white-collar southerner who wakes up every morning at his half-acre McMansion in suburbia, puts on his Red Wing boots, and drives his F-250 diesel into Dallas, Charlotte, Atlanta, Houston, etc. to his office job.
And your 'picture' would have nothing whatsoever to do with reality.
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Old 12-11-2008, 11:38 AM
 
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phialdelphia and Atlanta
charlotte and cleveland
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Old 12-11-2008, 11:39 AM
 
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Yeah, I can't think of one good match between southern and northern cities.

Pittsburgh and Birmingham?
Detroit and Memphis?

Even those are pretty weak.

Northern cities are true "cities" - areas where people tend to embrace high-density residential, mass transit, etc.
Southern cities are big towns. Even urban southerners (like a lot of my friends) have this "urban cowboy" mindset, where they want their farm lifestyle with city amenities. I picture the stereotypical white-collar southerner who wakes up every morning at his half-acre McMansion in suburbia, puts on his Red Wing boots, and drives his F-250 diesel into Dallas, Charlotte, Atlanta, Houston, etc. to his office job.
I'm from transplant from Chicago, and this has to be the dumbest post I've read all day.
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Old 12-11-2008, 11:40 AM
 
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Atlanta is the Anti-Philly.

I really don't think I am going to find any urban compact row home neighborhoods in the south. I also know I am not going to find any Center City in the south too.

Charlotte is too sprawled and not dense enought to compete with any city in the north. Charlotte could compete with a northern suburb maybe.
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Old 12-11-2008, 11:54 AM
 
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Yeah, I can't think of one good match between southern and northern cities.

Pittsburgh and Birmingham?
Detroit and Memphis?

Even those are pretty weak.

Northern cities are true "cities" - areas where people tend to embrace high-density residential, mass transit, etc.
Southern cities are big towns. Even urban southerners (like a lot of my friends) have this "urban cowboy" mindset, where they want their farm lifestyle with city amenities. I picture the stereotypical white-collar southerner who wakes up every morning at his half-acre McMansion in suburbia, puts on his Red Wing boots, and drives his F-250 diesel into Dallas, Charlotte, Atlanta, Houston, etc. to his office job.
That is just blatant ignorance...I'm embarassed for you.
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Old 12-11-2008, 12:27 PM
 
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Southern cities are big towns. Even urban southerners (like a lot of my friends) have this "urban cowboy" mindset, where they want their farm lifestyle with city amenities. I picture the stereotypical white-collar southerner who wakes up every morning at his half-acre McMansion in suburbia, puts on his Red Wing boots, and drives his F-250 diesel into Dallas, Charlotte, Atlanta, Houston, etc. to his office job.
Tell me your a transplant stuck in his way because you sound like you've been brainwashed into that thought. "Urban cowboy" mentality, McMansions, red wing boot, and driving a big pickup. You're the type of person who'll move to the Northeast and start feeling yourself, right?
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Old 12-11-2008, 12:35 PM
 
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Atlanta is the Anti-Philly.

I really don't think I am going to find any urban compact row home neighborhoods in the south. I also know I am not going to find any Center City in the south too.

Charlotte is too sprawled and not dense enought to compete with any city in the north. Charlotte could compete with a northern suburb maybe.
Are you saying that southern cities don't have a central business district or a concentrated downtown? That's absurd.

Do you mean rowhouses like these in Savannah? Savannah has street after street like these...

DSC_2873 on Flickr - Photo Sharing! (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jaboyce/475992730/ - broken link)


http://www.flickr.com/photos/markmasson/2389016827/ (broken link)


Row Houses on Flickr - Photo Sharing! (http://www.flickr.com/photos/piedmont_fossil/205039302/ - broken link)


2007_0102Florida2006-2007b0171 on Flickr - Photo Sharing! (http://www.flickr.com/photos/24108860@N06/2317069323/ - broken link)


Rowhouses like these in Richmond? There are a ton just like this...

on Flickr - Photo Sharing! (http://www.flickr.com/photos/richmondpics/131691068/ - broken link)


The Fan and Uptown on Flickr - Photo Sharing! (http://www.flickr.com/photos/barxtux/1580138187/ - broken link)


Humble Castle on Flickr - Photo Sharing! (http://www.flickr.com/photos/rhythmythicles/2335406280/ - broken link)


Row Houses, Richmond, VA on Flickr - Photo Sharing! (http://www.flickr.com/photos/aaronhudson/2709819349/ - broken link)


Like these in New Orleans?

Hagan on Flickr - Photo Sharing! (http://www.flickr.com/photos/karenapricot/933746714/ - broken link)


Back courtyard of St Louis Cathedral on Flickr - Photo Sharing! (http://www.flickr.com/photos/26962935@N03/3049996045/in/set-72157605400039684/ - broken link)


shotgun row on Flickr - Photo Sharing! (http://www.flickr.com/photos/photosharp/666812598/ - broken link)


IMG_1966 on Flickr - Photo Sharing! (http://www.flickr.com/photos/smellslikerust/291774715/ - broken link)


Maybe these in Charleston...

Rainbow Row Charleston - 1 on Flickr - Photo Sharing! (http://www.flickr.com/photos/daqi/156568073/ - broken link)


Charleston IMGP4840-01 on Flickr - Photo Sharing! (http://www.flickr.com/photos/daqi/156567982/in/photostream/ - broken link)


Rainbow Row Charleston - 4 on Flickr - Photo Sharing! (http://www.flickr.com/photos/daqi/156567941/in/photostream/ - broken link)


Atlanta has them too...

Driving Around Atlantic Station on Flickr - Photo Sharing! (http://www.flickr.com/photos/judybaxter/2412485443/ - broken link)


Driving Around Downtown Atlanta on Flickr - Photo Sharing! (http://www.flickr.com/photos/judybaxter/2413326038/in/photostream/ - broken link)


Bill Kennedy Way Townhouses on Flickr - Photo Sharing! (http://www.flickr.com/photos/johnnyurban/2175487649/ - broken link)


20061102-05.jpg on Flickr - Photo Sharing! (http://www.flickr.com/photos/gailevans/372741256/ - broken link)
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Old 12-11-2008, 12:42 PM
 
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^I am not saying that. I am saying that it isn't anywhere comparable to the N.E. in quantity.

Yeah, parts of Savanah and Charleston might look like sections of Boston. But they are completely different.

There si more to center city than tight bussiness districts.

Those photos of rowhomes in Atlanta look like your modern 1990-2000s townhomes being built recently. Meh.
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Old 12-11-2008, 12:55 PM
 
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^I am not saying that. I am saying that it isn't anywhere comparable to the N.E. in quantity.

Yeah, parts of Savanah and Charleston might look like sections of Boston. But they are completely different.

There si more to center city than tight bussiness districts.

Those photos of rowhomes in Atlanta look like your modern 1990-2000s townhomes being built recently. Meh.
Oh yeah, ATL's terraces have been built recently. Some of the older coastal Southern cities match the ones that you're used to seeing. Back then didn't folks from Boston stay in Charleston and Savannah to escape the winters?
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