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View Poll Results: Which is more unbearable: the Northern winter, or the Southern summer?
Northern winter 190 48.35%
Southern summer 203 51.65%
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Old 07-05-2009, 10:30 AM
 
Location: Underneath the Pecan Tree
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Well yeah, those that are in north Texas probably have similar weather to the mid-atlantic. I know that. But he lives in Houston, where the weather isn't all that different from Florida. I really hope he's joking about putting a fireplace on in the 70s...why you would even need a fireplace in south Texas or in Florida is beyond me.
I live in both Waco and Houston. I'm in Waco lots of time during the winter, and summer.
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Old 07-05-2009, 11:15 AM
 
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It may be 90 up here for a few days, but then a cold front comes through and it's back to a beautiful 70 degrees for the next week, unlike the south where its oppressively hot and humid for half the year.
I've seen cities such as St. Louis and Chicago broil under oppressive 90 - 100 degree heat waves for weeks at a time. Just recently, a woman died outside of St. Louis due to a heat wave.

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Also, I'll take our historic architecture over the south's numerous subdivisions, cookie-cutter houses, strip malls, and other forms of disgusting sprawl.
I heard this argument frequently when I lived in a large Rust Belt city. I suppose it's just a personal preference. I'll take my modern infrastructure, nice wide car-friendly streets and highways, parking lots as opposed to limited off-the-street parking, and NEW buildings that aren't falling to pieces over the derelict buildings and outdated design of Northern-tier cities that were built out before automobiles became a fact of life. That so-called "sprawl" provides a wide variety of recreational and shopping activities within easy reach. Having lived in old buildings and being aware of all their associated problems, so-called "historic architecture" does very little for me. And as far as "disgusting", I can hardly think of areas that deserve that title more than the many decaying and empty neighborhoods of Detroit, Cleveland, Buffalo, and Pittsburgh.
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Old 07-05-2009, 11:49 AM
 
Location: Atlanta
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It may be 90 up here for a few days, but then a cold front comes through and it's back to a beautiful 70 degrees for the next week, unlike the south where its oppressively hot and humid for half the year. Also, I'll take our historic architecture over the south's numerous subdivisions, cookie-cutter houses, strip malls, and other forms of disgusting sprawl.
You have just described Mishawaka. Guess you do all your shopping elsewhere.

The Midwest sprawls JUST AS BADLY as the rest of the country.
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Old 07-05-2009, 11:58 AM
 
Location: West Michigan
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You have just described Mishawaka. Guess you do all your shopping elsewhere.

The Midwest sprawls JUST AS BADLY as the rest of the country.
Why would you even cherry pick Mishawaka, IN as a place the poster you quoted would go shopping? K-Zoo (Kalamazoo where his name would indicate they are from) is quite a ways away from the South Bend area, and the weather is quite a bit different as well. K-Zoo is further North and more in the weather pattern affected by Lake Michigan.
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Old 07-05-2009, 12:00 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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Why would you even cherry pick Mishawaka, IN as a place the poster you quoted would go shopping? K-Zoo (Kalamazoo where his name would indicate they are from) is quite a ways away from the South Bend area, and the weather is quite a bit different as well. K-Zoo is further North and more in the weather pattern affected by Lake Michigan.
Simple, because he lives in Niles. Most people in the South Bend area have to go the sprawlville of Mishawaka for their lovely big box offerings. Portage is too far, but it basically is the same thing, different verse.
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Old 07-05-2009, 12:04 PM
 
Location: West Michigan
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Simple, because he lives in Niles. Most people in the South Bend area have to go the sprawlville of Mishawaka for their lovely big box offerings. Portage is too far, but it basically is the same thing, different verse.
gotca' Didn't know where he lived for sure, but was going by is name which would indicate K-zoo. Niles and Michawaka being darn near the same is so correct.
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Old 07-05-2009, 12:20 PM
 
Location: Texas
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It's only 9:30am in Houston and the heat index is already 93 degrees...no thank you. I'll take my 72 degrees (that feels like 72 degrees)
This year houston and texas are experiencing unusually high temperatures for this early in the summer. It usually isn't this hot until july/august.

Besides, you know good and well that New York can, and has gotten just as hot. Remember that heat wave a few years back? it got hotter in parts of the mid-Atlantic than it ever got in Houston.
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Old 07-05-2009, 12:23 PM
 
Location: Concrete jungle where dreams are made of.
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This year houston and texas are experiencing unusually high temperatures for this early in the summer. It usually isn't this hot until july/august.

Besides, you know good and well that New York can, and has gotten just as hot. Remember that heat wave a few years back? it got hotter in parts of the mid-Atlantic than it ever got in Houston.
Yeah, for like 3 days every few years...lol. Big deal.
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Old 07-05-2009, 12:25 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Did you forget that's it's summer in the Gulf Coast region? That's what suppose to happen down there. Just like when December comes and New York is in the 20s, Houstonians are enjoying their upper 50s in the morning and lower 70s in the afternoon.
well actually not at all Texans enjoy it all the time. I would certainly love to have more winter weather than we usually get.
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Old 07-05-2009, 06:03 PM
 
Location: Southern Minnesota
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Simple, because he lives in Niles. Most people in the South Bend area have to go the sprawlville of Mishawaka for their lovely big box offerings. Portage is too far, but it basically is the same thing, different verse.
I'm from Kzoo, live in Niles now. I hate South Bend. I really hate Mishawaka, I avoid it like the plague unless there is something I REALLY need from the mall or one of the big-box stores. I do most of my shopping in Niles, or in Kalamazoo/Portage when I'm up there.

Also, the main difference between Midwest sprawl and Southern sprawl is scope. There might be the same type of sprawl in the Midwest, but it is not nearly as expansive as in the South. Mishawaka is one area in South Bend, while Atlanta has sprawl/strip malls/subdivisions that go on for more than 40 miles. Even Chicago, which is much bigger than Atlanta or Charlotte, has public transportation throughout it's suburbs, something which the "sun belt" cities truly lack.
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