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Old 01-27-2009, 11:57 AM
 
Location: Atlanta
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^I have to side with DeaconJ on this one, Billiam.

There is an irrational fear of the South in the DC/MD/VA area by certain people. Fear or hatred, sometimes it crosses over. It is actually amusing to watch some of the wild things said.

The same can be said of some residents of SE Florida. They would rather be drawn and quartered than to admit they live in the South.
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Old 01-27-2009, 12:04 PM
 
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^I have to side with DeaconJ on this one, Billiam.

There is an irrational fear of the South in the DC/MD/VA area by certain people. Fear or hatred, sometimes it crosses over. It is actually amusing to watch some of the wild things said.

The same can be said of some residents of SE Florida. They would rather be drawn and quartered than to admit they live in the South.
But many people are simply ignorant to the fact that states don't always fall into ONE catagory. Maryland - Northern, Southern, and Appalachian. You can not say it belongs to just one of those, that would be ignorant. Western MD - Appalachian. Mid - Maryland is Northern with slight southern hints mixed in. Southern Maryland is Southern with slight hints of Northern In it. The Eastern Shore is Southern but with a mix of North In it. Baltimore city has a very northern feel to it, no sothern at all. DC has a northern feeling with a small to decent mix of Southern. Maryland/DC/Nova is just too diverse to label as south, North, or whatever so we just we are Mid-Atlantic. I live not 20 minutes from the PA line and yet im called southern? Even though schools teach us that we live in the Northeast? So locals points of views don't count? Very odd.
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Old 01-27-2009, 12:08 PM
 
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But many people are simply ignorant to the fact that states don't always fall into ONE catagory. Maryland - Northern, Southern, and Appalachian. You can not say it belongs to just one of those, that would be ignorant. Western MD - Appalachian. Mid - Maryland is Northern with slight southern hints mixed in. Southern Maryland is Southern with slight hints of Northern In it. The Eastern Shore is Southern but with a mix of North In it. Baltimore city has a very northern feel to it, no sothern at all. DC has a northern feeling with a small to decent mix of Southern. Maryland/DC/Nova is just too diverse to label as south, North, or whatever so we just we are Mid-Atlantic. I live not 20 minutes from the PA line and yet im called southern? Even though schools teach us that we live in the Northeast? So locals points of views don't count? Very odd.
No state falls into ONE category...Tennessee fits that description just as Maryland does - Maryland/D.C./Nova is not unique in that scenario.

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Old 01-27-2009, 12:09 PM
 
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No state falls into ONE category...Tennessee fits that description just as Maryland does - Maryland/D.C./Nova is not unique in that scenario.
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Old 01-27-2009, 12:10 PM
 
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^Sure they count, and they should.

I am just agreeing with DeaconJ when he states there is a fear of anything Southern, with regards to certain forumers from the DC metro. A fear/loathing so strong that SOME would even deny the history of the area. I certainly do not include you in this line of thought at all.

If you live in Frederick, I would agree that there is hardly anything Southern at all in your area. A great area, I might add. My sister and her family used to live just to your North, in Adams County. I am very familiar with the area.
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Old 01-27-2009, 12:12 PM
 
Location: New England & The Maritimes
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I laugh because it's funny.
that is an excellent reason to laugh
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Old 01-27-2009, 12:30 PM
 
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No state falls into ONE category...Tennessee fits that description just as Maryland does - Maryland/D.C./Nova is not unique in that scenario.
Hey Deac, I'm not choosing any type of sides here but MD (a border state) is surrounded by PA, DE, VA, and WV (another border state). MD has in my opinion 2 or 3 Northern states close by (no I'm not slow I say 2/3 depending on how you view DE along with PA/NJ) and 1 or 2 Southern states (VA and maybe DE) and another mixed-up border state WV. TN is just a mix of Appalachian, Southern, and maybe some Mid-Western in the NW corner. I think that you're saying that both have more than one 1 or two cultures but there's no doubt that MD has some NJ,PA, DE, VA, and WV in it and I'm not even getting into DC. The only thing that I know frustrates the both of us is when people get into that smug high horse attitude and start talking crazy when it comes to this 'MD, N or S' topic.
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Old 01-27-2009, 12:45 PM
 
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Hey Deac, I'm not choosing any type of sides here but MD (a border state) is surrounded by PA, DE, VA, and WV (another border state). MD has in my opinion 2 or 3 Northern states close by (no I'm not slow I say 2/3 depending on how you view DE along with PA/NJ) and 1 or 2 Southern states (VA and maybe DE) and another mixed-up border state WV. TN is just a mix of Appalachian, Southern, and maybe some Mid-Western in the NW corner. I think that you're saying that both have more than one 1 or two cultures but there's no doubt that MD has some NJ,PA, DE, VA, and WV in it and I'm not even getting into DC. The only thing that I know frustrates the both of us is when people get into that smug high horse attitude and start talking crazy when it comes to this 'MD, N or S' topic.
I personally don't care where people place Maryland...they can think that they are part of Siberia if they want to.

I totally disagree about Tennessee or any other state...you're being a little general with your assessment of a diverse and varied state. Memphis is VERY different from Knoxville...Chattanooga has the historical industrial element and turned it into tourism...Nashville is full of transplants like Atlanta/Charlotte/Raleigh/Dallas/etc - but we don't have heated discussions about whether Tennessee is part of the South. I'm just making a point that every state, and especially large cities, has strong cultural influences outside of the traditional/local culture...and the culture is in these places is as diverse and eclectic as it is in Maryland.
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Old 01-27-2009, 01:33 PM
 
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I'm just making a point that every state, and especially large cities, has strong cultural influences outside of the traditional/local culture...and the culture is in these places is as diverse and eclectic as it is in Maryland.
Oh yeah, any large/major city in whatever state is different (in every way) from the rest of the state (unless that state had another major city in it).
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Old 01-27-2009, 04:07 PM
 
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I don't think that is it at all, at least not 99% of the time. It seems like the problem is that people in those transition areas don't want to be associated with the South and the negative perceptions that often come with it.

I laugh because it's funny.
To be fair, some people do identify themselves as southerners. Honestly, natives don't even think or care about this North/South thing like that. True, there are some jerks who look down on others (in which i disapprove), but transition zones do exist, as you indicated. Thats the point.
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