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View Poll Results: Fav Metro City
NYC 20 27.03%
LA 9 12.16%
Phili 9 12.16%
Chi Town 22 29.73%
Houston 14 18.92%
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Old 12-28-2008, 09:56 AM
 
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never said they weren't csa's and imo there is no point arguing in between a few hundred 100,000 here or there, the point is they are big. I mean yeah nyc is obvoius 1, la is obvoius 2, chicago is probably obvious 3, but about 4-8 are pretty damn comparable.
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Old 12-28-2008, 11:20 AM
 
Location: Phoenix metro
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... and quit calling it "Chi town". Noone uses that term anymore!
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Old 12-28-2008, 02:02 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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... and quit calling it "Chi town". Noone uses that term anymore!

We do here in the West -
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Old 12-28-2008, 07:36 PM
 
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Word has it that the Washington DC metro has now made it all the way thru W VA and into the Stubenville Oh area. What a joke this metro shenanigans has become. This census circus is more about what region has the shrewdest most powerful politicians than it is about actual commuterism.

The politicians in Philadlephia should be ashamed of themselves. Its an absolute disgrace that every other region is allowed to expand 10,000-12,0000 sq. miles and Philadlephia is stuck at 4,800 sq miles.

Are you kidding me? Philadlephia isnt allowed to include Mercer County NJ (12 miles away) but Houston includes Galveston 55 miles away.Wash Dc goes from the DEl. border to WVA,I mean what is up with that? NYC is allowed to sprawl 70 miles into PA? SF and San Jose get to unite eventhough they are 50 miles apart. I mean give me a break.

Your best barometer for a united region is TV market. BIg business advertising runs this country and Philadlephia is the 4th largest TV market. Its much closer to Chicago than the 5th biggest market is to Philadelphia.

I hate to sound like a whiner but this combining metro mumbo jumbo irks me to no end. Probably because Philadephia doesnt get to play.Why cant we get Lancaster,Allentown,Atlantic City,Trenton all within 50 miles of Philadlephia.That would put Philly above Chicago.
I'ts all about commute patterns. So yes there a few very small bedroom communities in WVA more than 50 miles away from DC where the people that live there commute to DC. But the majority of the CSA population of DC/Baltimore are in close proximity to DC/Baltimore. If you take away the very distant members of the DC/Baltimore CSA, the CSA would only lose 100,000 or maybe 150,000 - so it would still be the 4th largest CSA.
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Old 12-28-2008, 08:30 PM
 
Location: Villanova Pa.
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I'ts all about commute patterns. So yes there a few very small bedroom communities in WVA more than 50 miles away from DC where the people that live there commute to DC. But the majority of the CSA population of DC/Baltimore are in close proximity to DC/Baltimore. If you take away the very distant members of the DC/Baltimore CSA, the CSA would only lose 100,000 or maybe 150,000 - so it would still be the 4th largest CSA.


Baltimore and Washington have always been seperate cities with their own seperate sphere of influence since the 1800's. Same with Houston Galveston, SF/San Jose, Dallas/ Fort Worth Boston/Providence. They were getting destroyed by NYC,LA, Chi and to a lesser extent Philadelphia so they had to come up with a gimmick, wahlah lets combine 2 different metroes and we shall call it 1 metro, easy enough right? A Cheap Trick indeed.

Stick with the PMSA for a fair and accurate measure of a metro region.The supersized metroes is merely political manuevering. Take the cmsa info with a grain of salt.
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Old 12-28-2008, 08:38 PM
 
Location: moving again
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Baltimore and Washington have always been seperate cities with their own seperate sphere of influence since the 1800's. Same with Houston Galveston, SF/San Jose, Dallas/ Fort Worth Boston/Providence. They were getting destroyed by NYC,LA, Chi and to a lesser extent Philadelphia so they had to come up with a gimmick, wahlah lets combine 2 different metroes and we shall call it 1 metro, easy enough right? A Cheap Trick indeed.

Stick with the PMSA for a fair and accurate measure of a metro region.The supersized metroes is merely political manuevering. Take the cmsa info with a grain of salt.
uh..no its what we call growth
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Old 12-28-2008, 08:45 PM
 
Location: Somerville, MA
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Well, this is a productive thread.
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Old 12-28-2008, 09:01 PM
 
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well, this is a productive thread.

lol!
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Old 12-28-2008, 09:06 PM
 
Location: Villanova Pa.
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Washington and Baltimore are distinct seperate metroes.This has nothing to do about growth and everything to do about powerful politicians fudging numbers. Its absolutely ridiculous to say Emmitsburg MD which is 80 miles from DC is part of Washington DC metro but Trenton NJ which is 12 miles from Philadlephia isnt part of metro Philadlephia. Stop with this nonsense.

How can Wash DC claim Emmitsburg (80 Miles away) Manchester MD (70 miles) Havre De Grace(70 miles)when Philadlephia cant claim Reading which is 35 miles away or Trenton(12 miles) or Allentown or Lancaster,Atlantic City? Similar growth is happening in Philadlephia but for whatever reason it doesnt have the power that DC, NYC,SF or Houston has to become supersized.

Lets just stick with PMSA to keep it fair. It doesnt make any logical sense to me that Washington DC can have 3 x the land area in its cmsa than Philadlephia .
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Old 12-28-2008, 09:08 PM
 
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^ Its done by county. So its not so much that they specifically wanted emmitsburg its just they wanted Frederick County because the metro area extended out to it. Its growth. BTW 80 miles? HAHA ok

Here's A map
Philly metro


DC Metro


The Furthest out Phillys goes is 60 miles

While DC's is 70 to its furthest point

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