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Old 01-02-2009, 09:00 AM
 
Location: Villanova Pa.
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I think the NYC region should really only be in NY state. NJ and CT have their own cities which are closer than NYC. I'm going to get so much beef for this, but it's just how I feel.
Be careful what you wish for. Lose those wealthy counties of North jersey and CT and NY metro takes a thrashing economically.

Hey if you dont want Mercer County we'll(Philly) take it back seeing how its 1/4 mile away, a stones throw across the Delaware River from the heart of our metro. We'll take Hunterdon,Morris and any other obscenely wealthy NJ county you dont want as well. Talk about being an ingrate.
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Old 01-02-2009, 09:05 AM
 
Location: Concrete jungle where dreams are made of.
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The metro area is too big anyway. We already have Westchester and Long Island.
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Old 01-02-2009, 10:49 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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1. New York-Newark-Bridgeport, NY-NJ-CT-PA CSA - 21,961,994

8. Philadelphia-Camden-Vineland, PA-NJ-DE-MD CSA - 6,385,461
I can't believe these 2 CSAs cover 4 states. That's ridiculous.
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Old 01-02-2009, 10:52 AM
 
Location: Omaha
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I sometimes think Omaha's is over-extended into Iowa yet under-extended in Nebraska.

Omaha's includes 3 counties in Iowa, 2 of which make little sense to me other than commuting.

Now, on the Nebraska side, They should include Fremont, NE (Dodge County) and maybe even Lincoln, NE (Lancaster County).
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Old 01-02-2009, 10:55 AM
 
Location: moving again
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The sprawling enormity of the Wash DC Bal WV metro. It goes from De. to W.VA. From Pa to halfway to NC.Unbelievable.

Yet I cant get Mercer County NJ which is 1/4 mile from Bucks County and 15 miles to Center City Philadelphia. Philadlephia needs some better politicians and marketers.




Could somebody please tell me how Trenton-Ewing-Princeton is not part of Philadlephia metro. Anyone? Its literally a stones throw away across the river from the heart of metro Philadlephia. Its preposterous that Trenton is part of metro NYC, absolutely ridiculous.



Manhattan to Trenton-68 miles
The Metro doesn't enter Delaware and does not go half way to NC. You' are strange how you take your anger out on the Balwash metro just because its bigger than Philly and tell lies about it.
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Old 01-02-2009, 11:10 AM
 
Location: THE THRONE aka-New York City
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The metro area is too big anyway. We already have Westchester and Long Island.
Exactly i dont think ny should be to concerned about losing counties in north nj. We already have westchester and long island. Both of which are extremely wealthy. Wheres the pride left in jersey
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Old 01-02-2009, 11:11 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Don't worry, they're your typical person from NJ. There's a reason why so many people from NJ post on the NYC forum and say it should be the 6th borough. It another state and has its own cities, but they fail to realize that and want to be part of NY.
Not this same old tired line from you again. What ever gets you through the day I guess.
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Old 01-02-2009, 11:25 AM
 
Location: Concrete jungle where dreams are made of.
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I've seen tons of people from NJ who say they want to be another borough of NYC. I totally agree with KONY. See, there's been a few other locals who feel the same way. It isn't just me.
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Old 01-02-2009, 01:29 PM
 
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The NYC metro region is not the same as NYC itself. A metro region is just a way of describing a populated area in a way that ignores city boundaries in order to come up with a population figure that more closely mirrors the "actual" number of inhabitants.

New York's metro area includes the entire populated region surrounding NYC. That includes most of Long Island, much of northern New Jersey, and north into Connecticut and up the Hudson River.
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Old 01-02-2009, 01:35 PM
 
Location: St. Louis, MO
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No, Clevelands immediate metro only covers 2,000 sq miles, one of the smallest on the list. The metro doesnt even include Akron which I think is ridiculous since Cuyahoga (Clevelands county) and Summit (Akrons county) are bordering counties. St. Louis metro covers 8,650 sq miles which is incredibly overextended. Thats over 4 times the size as Clevelands metro. Thats about the size as the entire NE Ohio. St. Louis metro has 2.8 million people, and if Cleveland covered that much area it would have roughly 5.2 million people. Look at this map of the metros and locate Cleveland and St. Louis and you will see what I mean: File:Core Based Statistical Areas.png - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The time your talking about with Youngstown, I was only saying that because some idiot said that Rochester should be included in Buffalos metro which didnt make sense at all. So I added that if Rochester was added to Buffalo, Youngstown should be added to Cleveland since Youngstown is closer and much more connected to Cleveland than Rochester is to Buffalo. I wasnt saying it should actually be added.
Even it covers more land area than Cleveland, I would hardly call it a ridiculous amount of land area. The population remains dense and the landscape mostly urban in the entire area that it covers...there are no points in between it. Unless you've been to St. Louis, you really aren't qualified to say whether or not its boundaries are over extended. How do you know it would have 5.2 million people exactly? Cleveland is different than St. Louis because it is situated on Lake Erie, making it almost impossible for it to lie at the center of its metro area. St. Louis is situated on a river, meaning there is more land immediately around it and its location enables for a population sprawl that is large but concentrated. St. Louis in its metro area is far more dense per square mile than Cleveland. The Cleveland-Akron-Canton area is about the same size as St. Louis if I recall. Any point in the St. Louis metro area is no more than 40 miles away from the city. Cleveland doesn't cover that same amount of land area for several reasons. If it did, areas more than 60 miles away from the city proper would have to be included, including large patches of rural areas. Your comparison of metro areas based on the size of the landscape doesn't really hold much water. It all depends on how urban the areas are and how densely populated they are, not to mention how big the city proper is itself.

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