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Old 01-10-2009, 01:40 PM
 
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Yep, that's usually them. It is rather humorous when someone from DC or Miami insists that Pittsburgh is Midwestern. Not that I know everything about the city; but usually they say something like the culture is Midwestern, and then never explain what culture means or in what way our culture is Midwestern.



I agree, I think in most cases natives know best (though not always).
Just curious: what are some examples where the natives DON'T know best what they are?
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Old 01-10-2009, 02:35 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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Just curious: what are some examples where the natives DON'T know best what they are?
There are no general examples because it is not a trend, but individuals' misconceptions. Any type of ignorance about their city can lead to misconceptions, because a city is not simply a group of people, but structure with a history, businesses, economic ties, etc. Thus, such examples must come from individuals themselves.
Additionally, like I previously implied: I never said they don't know who they are. I did say: some don't know what their city is. The individuals in a city don't = the city, but are a piece within it.
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Old 01-10-2009, 03:08 PM
 
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good list!

Although Ive simply never felt a touch of Southern Influence in Baltimore, ever

Id Say DC is a Mid-Atlantic City with very small hints of Southern Influence
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Old 01-10-2009, 06:03 PM
 
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good list!
Thanks.

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Although Ive simply never felt a touch of Southern Influence in Baltimore, ever

Id Say DC is a Mid-Atlantic City with very small hints of Southern Influence
Not to be offensive, but I think that so many years below the Mason-Dixon line should count for something due to the historical southerness of both Baltimore and DC. Also, the demographics are a little different and I've even heard some southern twang in B-More. Though, I don't know as much as you on Balto or DC, so I could very well be wrong.
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Old 01-10-2009, 06:15 PM
 
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Thanks.



Not to be offensive, but I think that so many years below the Mason-Dixon line should count for something due to the historical southerness of both Baltimore and DC. Also, the demographics are a little different and I've even heard some southern twang in B-More. Though, I don't know as much as you on Balto or DC, so I could very well be wrong.
not offensive its just i can't feel the 'southernness' ever. I may be able to understand if someone feels DC has some 'southernness'. But Baltimore? Ive never heard this twang though. Unless you're talking about the Baltimore accent, which is not southern. But yea it was under the m/d line, but two things one, it existed way before that line. and two, do you think Cumberland is southern or Frostburg, etc or any western Maryland town (since they're closer to you is why im mentioning w md and they are under the m/d line)? I just really need someone to explain where the southernness lies because i would really like to see it. it would be interesting.
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Old 01-10-2009, 07:22 PM
 
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It's there, just not as blatantly obvious as some areas. Do some research and learn about the first 300 years or so of its history.

Never understood why most Marylanders are so ashamed of their Southern roots.
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Old 01-10-2009, 07:54 PM
 
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not offensive its just i can't feel the 'southernness' ever. I may be able to understand if someone feels DC has some 'southernness'. But Baltimore? Ive never heard this twang though. Unless you're talking about the Baltimore accent, which is not southern. But yea it was under the m/d line, but two things one, it existed way before that line. and two, do you think Cumberland is southern or Frostburg, etc or any western Maryland town (since they're closer to you is why im mentioning w md and they are under the m/d line)? I just really need someone to explain where the southernness lies because i would really like to see it. it would be interesting.
Your right, I don't know where this line is. But, I suspect it's much more of a continuum than a solid line.
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Old 01-10-2009, 08:24 PM
 
Location: RVA
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not offensive its just i can't feel the 'southernness' ever. I may be able to understand if someone feels DC has some 'southernness'. But Baltimore? Ive never heard this twang though. Unless you're talking about the Baltimore accent, which is not southern. But yea it was under the m/d line, but two things one, it existed way before that line. and two, do you think Cumberland is southern or Frostburg, etc or any western Maryland town (since they're closer to you is why im mentioning w md and they are under the m/d line)? I just really need someone to explain where the southernness lies because i would really like to see it. it would be interesting.

I have to disagree about the Baltimore accent, which isn't all that different from the Richmond accent, which I used to have, and which my entire family still has. I noticed it the first time I saw a John Waters movie. Finally, people onscreen that talked like me!
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Old 01-10-2009, 08:25 PM
 
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not offensive its just i can't feel the 'southernness' ever. I may be able to understand if someone feels DC has some 'southernness'. But Baltimore? Ive never heard this twang though. Unless you're talking about the Baltimore accent, which is not southern. But yea it was under the m/d line, but two things one, it existed way before that line. and two, do you think Cumberland is southern or Frostburg, etc or any western Maryland town (since they're closer to you is why im mentioning w md and they are under the m/d line)? I just really need someone to explain where the southernness lies because i would really like to see it. it would be interesting.
Billiam. I'm not originally from this area so maybe you should know this question better. Is the Salisbury area southern in feel. Never been there before.
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Old 01-10-2009, 08:50 PM
 
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Billiam. I'm not originally from this area so maybe you should know this question better. Is the Salisbury area southern in feel. Never been there before.
Basically the entire eastern Shore has a southern feel, so i would say yes. Although Salisbury is a college town (i think, im not really an expert on Salisbury)


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I have to disagree about the Baltimore accent, which isn't all that different from the Richmond accent, which I used to have, and which my entire family still has. I noticed it the first time I saw a John Waters movie. Finally, people onscreen that talked like me!
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Never understood why most Marylanders are so ashamed of their Southern roots.
Excuse you. That's all i will say, you don't even deserve half of what i just said to you.
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