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Old 01-04-2009, 09:56 AM
 
Location: On the Great South Bay
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It's because NJ is a lot, lot, lot, less dense than NYC. NJ has something like 1,000 people per sq mile while NYC has over 27,000 ppl per sq mile. Even though NJ is considered dense as a state if it were a city it would be much less dense than Los Angeles, Houston, and Atlanta, so its hard to compare state wide density to a city's. Also as you probablly know NJ has a lot of sprawled out suburbs and farmland in Central and Southern NJ which takes away from the bulk of the density that is concentrated in Northern NJ.
While New Jersey is the most dense state most of it is still not dense urban areas and there is still alot of open space. They have a decent state park system, are trying to save some of their farmland and even have a nice sized wild area down south called the Pine Barrens.

What bugs me is that it is easier for NJ folks to get to the Catskills and Adirondacks in upstate NY than it is for me here on Long Island!
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Old 01-04-2009, 11:59 AM
 
Location: Underneath the Pecan Tree
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With a population of around 8,274,527 people squeezed into 304 sq miles NYC is easily the densest major city with 27,147 people per sq miles. But what would be the population of other cities if they had the same density? Find out now.

With 767 sq miles of land Jacksonville would have to have about
20,800,000 people to be as dense as NYC.

With 579.4 sq miles of land Houston would have to have about
15,750,000 people to be as dense as NYC.

With 469 sq miles of land Los Angeles would have to have about 12,750,000 people to be as dense as NYC.

With 227 sq miles of land Chicago would have to have about
6,160,000 people to be as dense as NYC.

With 131 sq miles of land Atlanta would have to have about
2,790,000 people to be as dense as NYC.

With 48.4 sq miles of land Boston would have to have about
1,319,000 people to be as dense of NYC.

With 46.7 sq miles of land San Francisco would have to have about
1,270,000 people to be as dense as NYC.

With 35.6 sq miles of land Miami would have to have about
965,000 people to be as dense as NYC.

I calculated these numbers by taking the land area of these cities and then increasing the population and dividing it by the land area until I could get the closet density possible to NYC. There is probablly a more algebraic method of doing this but oh well algebra has never been my best subject. Enjoy
This would suck ass. I wouldn't live in neither of these cities.
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Old 01-04-2009, 12:04 PM
 
Location: Alpharetta, GA (North Atlanta Metro)
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This would suck ass. I wouldn't live in neither of these cities.
Haha I agree. Jacksonville would have more people than the entire state of Florida currently.
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Old 01-04-2009, 12:19 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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In the 1940s a couple neighborhoods in the Hill District of Pittsburgh had about 65,000 per square mile; which is about Manhattan's density today. Over the Rhine in Cincinnati had about the same as well.
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Old 01-04-2009, 12:19 PM
 
Location: Teaneck, NJ
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Union City, NJ is a little over 1 sq mile and its population is close to 63,000... thats DENSE
Hudson, Bergen, Essex, Union, Passaic, Mercer, Middlesex and Camden counties are really the real dense ones in nj out of the 21 counties overall.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/2e/New_Jersey_Population_Map.png (broken link)


NJ is so dense only because its a metro of 2 really big cities, Phili and NYC. Most of its population is really in the NE and SW. Central, SE, and NW jersey isnt really too close to either of the major towns which makes those sections not as densly populated.

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Old 01-04-2009, 12:34 PM
 
Location: Alpharetta, GA (North Atlanta Metro)
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Manhattan once had a density of 100,000 per sq mile in 1910 when it had a population of 2.3 million, that's when Manhattan made up the bulk of NYC's population
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Old 01-04-2009, 04:28 PM
 
Location: Somerville, MA
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Agreed Jacksonville's city limits are crazy. Much of the area the city annexed is rural and has trailer parks and livestock.

And I believe Union City, NJ is the densest city in the nation with 52,977 people per sq mile but I didn't include that because it is not a major city.
Funny, I was looking at infor about this a few minutes ago. Guttenberg NJ is the densest MUNICIPALITY in the nation (just over 56k per sq. mi). I was looking this up because I thought it was Somerville Mass. I was wrong... Somerville MA is the 5th densest city in the nation... the top 4 are all in New Jersey. Union City is the Densest CITY in the nation.
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Old 01-04-2009, 05:31 PM
 
Location: Jersey City
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^ Yeah, the thing is those NJ municipalities are small in area. Guttenberg is 0.2 square miles. It's 4 blocks by 5 blocks, I think, and its population is only 10 or 11 thousand. So dense as it is, it covers a tiny area. But, immediately adjacent to Guttenberg are places like Union City, West New York, Weehawken, North Bergen, Hoboken, all are a bit larger, and all are very dense too. If Manhattan were carved into municipalities of 0.2 sq miles, you'd have some astronomical density figures in some of them.
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Old 01-04-2009, 05:45 PM
 
Location: NJ
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^ Yeah, the thing is those NJ municipalities are small in area. Guttenberg is 0.2 square miles. It's 4 blocks by 5 blocks, I think, and its population is only 10 or 11 thousand. So dense as it is, it covers a tiny area. But, immediately adjacent to Guttenberg are places like Union City, West New York, Weehawken, North Bergen, Hoboken, all are a bit larger, and all are very dense too. If Manhattan were carved into municipalities of 0.2 sq miles, you'd have some astronomical density figures in some of them.
bayonne while not considered one of the densest at about 5+ sq miles with 60K+ residents, is extremely dense, as only less than 3 sq miles are inhabited. the population when I lived there was around 80K stuffed into less than 3 sq miles - about 35K per sq. it all seemed normal to me. it's the boonies here out in 400 ppl per sq mile-land.
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Old 01-04-2009, 05:47 PM
 
Location: Alpharetta, GA (North Atlanta Metro)
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bayonne while not considered one of the densest at about 5+ sq miles with 60K+ residents, is extremely dense, as only less than 3 sq miles are inhabited. the population when I lived there was around 80K stuffed into less than 3 sq miles - about 35K per sq. it all seemed normal to me. it's the boonies here out in 400 ppl per sq mile-land.
Haha that's part of why I love NJ. You have super urban dense areas like JC, Bayonne, Newark and then lots of rural countryside.
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