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View Poll Results: Which city is experiencing the biggest demographic shift??
Chicago 8 9.76%
Atlanta 26 31.71%
Washington, D.C. 14 17.07%
New York City 9 10.98%
Boston 1 1.22%
Houston 13 15.85%
St. Louis 2 2.44%
Los Angeles 22 26.83%
Detroit 4 4.88%
San Francisco 8 9.76%
Philadelphia 1 1.22%
Baltimore 1 1.22%
Cleveland 0 0%
Seattle 2 2.44%
Other 11 13.41%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 82. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 01-06-2009, 02:30 AM
 
Location: Madrid, Spain
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You are correct about how in Europe the wealthy live in the city while the further out you go the poorer the people get. My mother was from Rome and she used to take pride about living right in the heart of the city.
This is quite true -- Im from Madrid and if you live in the "Center" you are middle to upper middle class, whereas the further out you live within the city limits, the poorer and more socialist it gets.
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Old 01-06-2009, 01:25 PM
 
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Yeah, they live in South Utica and my aunt and uncle live in New Hartford.

I agree about Utica not being as bad as it used to be. Another large demographic shift for the metro area would be the amount of young families moving there. Three years ago I saw only old people. Last year, there were tons of 30-somethings with beautiful families all over. The Best Buy on Commercial Drive was packed. The new Marquee Theater nearby was quite busy as well. South Utica is still all old people. West Utica is still mostly Italian, but is getting more rundown in some parts, and Cornhill residents are starting to move there I think. Downtown is still a ghost town sadly, but the Stanley has been revived and bringing lots of new people there for events.

On a side note, not sure if you know where I'm talking about, but do you know where that big block of like 5-6 story brownstones is? It's near the art museum and a gas station. It's brown, but quite dirty. Well, that is one of my favorite buildings ever. I have no clue why, but I love it.

But yeah, for smaller cities, I would have to say the Utica metro is changing drastically, some areas for the worse, some for the better.
I know what building you are talking about on Genesee Street. I always wonder about the balconies on that building, as they look like a person standing on them would make the thing collapse. It is a nice old building with a rustic look to it.

Also, I thought Italians were on the East side and Germans and Polish on the West side of Utica.
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Old 01-06-2009, 06:24 PM
 
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I know what building you are talking about on Genesee Street. I always wonder about the balconies on that building, as they look like a person standing on them would make the thing collapse. It is a nice old building with a rustic look to it.

Also, I thought Italians were on the East side and Germans and Polish on the West side of Utica.
Oh...IDK...I always get them confused. But all I know is that East and West are not pretty, and it's depressing to see the Italian neighborhoods like that after they had such a strong history and presence in the city.

For those who don't know, the Mafia started in Utica and Utica used to be known as Sin City. Now there are not many Italians left at all, though everyone suspects that the ones still there still have connections with the Mafia.
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Old 01-06-2009, 06:36 PM
 
Location: Unknowed
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Why does everyone keep ragging on L.A. and it's Mexican population? If there Illegal than how can they be a citizen and thus be counted in Los Angeles population? Also isn't San Diego closer to the border, last time I checked it is, so how all of a sudden did all the Mexican migrate up to L.A. when San Diego is right there. Wouldn't San Diego have a higher population of Mexican than L.A.?
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Old 01-06-2009, 06:38 PM
 
Location: Omaha
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Why does everyone keep ragging on L.A. and it's Mexican population? If there Illegal than how can they be a citizen and thus be counted in Los Angeles population? Also isn't San Diego closer to the border, last time I checked it is, so how all of a sudden did all the Mexican migrate up to L.A. when San Diego right there. Wouldn't San Diego have a higher population of Mexican than L.A. than because of this?
It's called jobs dude.

And I don't know why...why are there illegals in Nebraska? Mexicans get the concept of travel just like the rest of us.
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Old 01-06-2009, 06:40 PM
 
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Oh...IDK...I always get them confused. But all I know is that East and West are not pretty, and it's depressing to see the Italian neighborhoods like that after they had such a strong history and presence in the city.

For those who don't know, the Mafia started in Utica and Utica used to be known as Sin City. Now there are not many Italians left at all, though everyone suspects that the ones still there still have connections with the Mafia.
I know it isn't as high as it used to be, but I thought they still were the biggest ethnic/racial group in Utica. I believe 26.% of the city claims Italian ancestry:http://www.city-data.com/city/Utica-New-York.html
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Old 01-06-2009, 06:49 PM
 
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I know it isn't as high as it used to be, but I thought they still were the biggest ethnic/racial group in Utica. I believe 26.% of the city claims Italian ancestry:http://www.city-data.com/city/Utica-New-York.html
I meant compared to its hay-day with the Mafia.
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Old 01-06-2009, 06:53 PM
 
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I meant compared to its hay-day with the Mafia.
I figured that. Yeah, people thought besides the few ethnic and Black neighborhoods, Utica was pretty much an Italian city.
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Old 01-06-2009, 09:10 PM
 
Location: Bronx, NY
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NYC has seen a huge increase in Mexicans.

As a matter of fact, Dominicans are going to become the dominant hispanic group by 2020, and just 4 years later, Mexicans will be the dominant group!!

Mexicans To Be Majority of Latino New Yorkers By 2024, Study Predicts Feet In 2 Worlds
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Old 01-06-2009, 09:41 PM
 
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Why does everyone keep ragging on L.A. and it's Mexican population? If there Illegal than how can they be a citizen and thus be counted in Los Angeles population? Also isn't San Diego closer to the border, last time I checked it is, so how all of a sudden did all the Mexican migrate up to L.A. when San Diego is right there. Wouldn't San Diego have a higher population of Mexican than L.A.?
  1. We don't like them and there are enough of them and they are soon going to be a majority of several major cities.
  2. They aren't counted. They make estimations so that people can comtemplate how many more actually live in the city than are counted.
  3. Can't give you an answer, but I do know SD has one of the lowest % of Hispanics for any city near the border. They do think there is more work in LA...HAHAHAHA...not when all of Mexico is here there won't be work.
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