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Old 01-12-2009, 02:25 PM
 
Location: Boston
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Fairly meaningless data

All bachelor's degrees aren't created equal

Where top 10% of graduates of top 5 colleges choose to migrate for careers is far more interesting data

Mr. Gates is a drop-out from Harvard undergrad....numerous tech titans are college dropouts...and many are dropouts from Stanford's Engineering PhD program
zuckerberg, the facebook kid is a harvard drop out too. I met him a few times at frat parties a couple years ago.
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Old 01-12-2009, 03:02 PM
 
Location: New York City
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Seattle, San Francisco, Minneapolis and Boston each have a small geographical footprint. That would skew the numbers when compared with cities like New York, Chicago, LA and Houston.
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Old 01-12-2009, 03:07 PM
 
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No it doesn't. That's why you use per capita numbers!
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Old 01-12-2009, 03:28 PM
 
Location: Earth
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#10 Lexington, KY eh? Who'd of thunk it?

Lexington and Louisville are on my short list of places to check out for possible relocation. That's good to know.

I wonder - is it that NKU and UofL grads stay near home, or are educated people moving there?
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Old 01-12-2009, 05:59 PM
 
Location: New Albany, Indiana (Greater Louisville)
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#10 Lexington, KY eh? Who'd of thunk it?

Lexington and Louisville are on my short list of places to check out for possible relocation. That's good to know.

I wonder - is it that NKU and UofL grads stay near home, or are educated people moving there?
Having lived in Lexington since age 11 (other than 6 years spent on and off in Louisville) most UK students from out of state and other areas of KY seem to stay in Lexington after graduating, plus there are lots of private and other public schools in the metro (Transy, Midway, Asbury, Gtown, Berea, Centre, EKU and KSU). There is also an increasing number of WKU and U of L alums. Lexington also never had much of an industrial economy so most transplants moved here for jobs requiring a college degree
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Old 01-13-2009, 11:54 AM
 
Location: New York City
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No it doesn't. That's why you use per capita numbers!
Yes it does. New York is such a massive city that its numbers will always be pulled down by places like the Bronx (with a lot of poverty) and Queens (with a lot of immigrants). A better comparison would be San Francisco and Manhattan.

Seattle, San Francisco, and Boston are very gentrified, i.e., they have large numbers of educated professionals living in the inner city. Because of their small geographical footprint, a large part of the working-class population lives outside of the city proper (in places like Oakland).
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Old 01-13-2009, 12:03 PM
 
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Some of the smartest people I know never bothered wasting their time getting a degree. College, especially in one's youth preceding one's career, is for people who can't foster the inner curiosity and/or the self-discipline to study independently, which is far more efficient given the immense and growing resources one can find online at a low cost or for free. Education should be a life-long pursuit, and it should never be separated from the rest of one's priorities: family, career, investment interests, and so on. Most colleges are nothing but dens of sin and socialist brainwashing institutions!
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Old 01-13-2009, 12:08 PM
 
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Some of the smartest people I know never bothered wasting their time getting a degree. College, especially in one's youth preceding one's career, is for people who can't foster the inner curiosity and/or the self-discipline to study independently, which is far more efficient given the immense and growing resources one can find online at a low cost or for free. Education should be a life-long pursuit, and it should never be separated from the rest of one's priorities: family, career, investment interests, and so on. Most colleges are nothing but dens of sin and socialist brainwashing institutions!
Why are you so afraid of intellectualism?
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Old 01-13-2009, 12:17 PM
 
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Why are you so afraid of intellectualism?
Why are you wearing a fish on your head?
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Old 01-13-2009, 01:13 PM
 
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Some of the smartest people I know never bothered wasting their time getting a degree. College, especially in one's youth preceding one's career, is for people who can't foster the inner curiosity and/or the self-discipline to study independently, which is far more efficient given the immense and growing resources one can find online at a low cost or for free. Education should be a life-long pursuit, and it should never be separated from the rest of one's priorities: family, career, investment interests, and so on. Most colleges are nothing but dens of sin and socialist brainwashing institutions!
Didn't get accepted to the college of your choice? Or maybe you've seen Animal House too many times...

Sorry, but a college education is much more than you're little assessment above. It's a simple thing to stand on the outside looking in and offer harsh criticism, but remember that you're criticizing something you don't really understand...so your ideas are nowhere near accurate.

There are many professions that require a college education as well as professional certification. There are probably places in the world where self-taught medical professionals can practice, but would you really feel comfortable with one who hasn't completed a program at one the "dens of sin/socialist brainwashing institutions"?

If you're assertions are true, then our goal should be to eradicate formal education altogether and allow children as well as adults to "foster their inner curiosity" on their own without the confines of educational institutions. I mean, why waste time with a high school diploma either when you could be learning SO much more elsewhere and build the self-discipline to study independently at the same time?
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