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Old 02-05-2009, 08:37 AM
 
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Pennsylvania was clear-cut by the logging industry, strip-mined by the coal companies (in the west, and the eastern mines were no model of environmentalism either), the air was polluted by the steel companies. Pittsburgh wasn't called "Hell with the Lid Off" for no good reason. There is a nuclear power plant on the south shore of Lake Michigan near Chicago.
Nothing wrong with this point, but I'm amused that you talk about PA and Pittsburgh specifically and then talk about nuclear plants somewhere else!
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Old 02-05-2009, 08:38 AM
 
Location: IN
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I counted a total of eleven metropolitan and micropolitan areas in MI with unemployment rates above 10% in the month of December. That is pretty scary.
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Old 02-05-2009, 08:57 AM
 
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Most of the housing stock made 100 years ago was of high quality. Most of the stock today is crap comparatively. It's all about saving/making money today--there is little craftsmanship.
Most of the surviving housing stock made 100 years ago was of high quality. That's why it survived.

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Both Pittsburgh and Pennsylvania are a political mess. People always vote down party lines regardless of who's running. One person on this forum said it perfectly: the Democrat party can run Timothy McVeigh against the Pope and the Democrats will still pull out the victory.
But only because of anti-Catholicism among devout American Protestants.

Sadly, it's a real phenomenon.
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Old 02-05-2009, 12:12 PM
 
Location: St. Louis, MO
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The suburbs of the Rust Belt cities are thriving, and many Rust Belt cities have converted from manufacturing centers to major business centers. St. Louis, Chicago, Milwaukee, Detroit, Cleveland, and Pittsburgh have all done this. St. Louis and Chicago, however seem to have done it better than Detroit and Cleveland.
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Old 02-05-2009, 02:02 PM
 
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Go pahk ya cah up ya arse ya friggin chowda eata.

Kiss my Midwestern arse long and hard. Pucker up, Buttercup.
I guess that accent was an attempt at humor.

Nice try, but I won't be in Massachusetts for much longer. I might put down the Rust Belt but I don't like where I live either.
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Old 02-05-2009, 02:04 PM
 
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Ignore him. That guy pops boners, oddly enough, when he thinks of the sunbelt, disses the Midwest, and lives in a city in MA that would only dream of being as dynamic as Chicago. All he does is start crap and talk it. Time to dish it back.
Like I said, I don't like Massachusetts either. I never said Boston is more dynamic than Chicago.
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Old 02-05-2009, 04:14 PM
 
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The Rustbelt is bleeding people, and the Sunbelt is welcome to take them. We can always chip off the rust. It leaves the rest of the picture smaller, wealthier and better formed
Translation : We're still butthurt.
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Old 02-05-2009, 06:45 PM
 
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if the rust belt has been hurting badly for so long, then how come there are still so many people left there?

the economy of the rust belt cant be that bad if there are still that many people left

What is the economy of the rust belt now anyways?
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Rustbelt?

The entire US is a rustbelt.
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Old 02-05-2009, 08:05 PM
 
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Translation : We're still butthurt.
Nah. It's natural progression, and I don't think many people care.

Just stay down there.
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Old 02-07-2009, 11:41 PM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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I just read that Pittsburgh's problems also have to do with people there, who seem to be a bit unpleasant according to that poster.
Revenge of the Rust Belt - Economix Blog - NYTimes.com
If the poster says the truth, is that a general trait of people in the Rust Belt or is it limited to Pittsburgh, for whatever reason?
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