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Old 04-12-2010, 08:27 PM
 
Location: The Lakes
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UK, I think your the first person who has tried to help Detroit's image here on City Data. Unfortunately you have your work cut out for you! But I seen how New York and now increasingly Philadelphia came back, so keep hope alive!
Nah, there's 3 or 4 of us :P

But I know Detroit can make it. I've spent time working with the poor there, and met people from all over the burbs to Gratiot to Woodward to Michigan Ave., all the way to the Rencen and the Grosse Pts.

The soul found in Detroit will save itself. Hard work and love are a part of the city's culture!
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Old 04-12-2010, 08:33 PM
 
Location: Lakeland, Florida
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Because it is home to them probably for generations.
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Old 04-12-2010, 08:35 PM
 
Location: Blue Ash, Ohio (Cincinnati)
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I keep getting this sense that people from outside the Midwest or Northeast think the RUST BELT is this huge region that's all depressed/declining manufacturing.

There are areas that totally fit that description, but it's hardly that midwest = rust belt. There are towns like that in the Midwest, but of the total population of 64 million or whatever, the people actually living in "rust belt" areas are definitely a minority.

There are places like areas of Detroit, Cleveland, Youngstown, etc. that are poster children of Rust Belt, but most people in the Midwest aren't associated with manufacturing, and many live in the suburbs of Chicago, or Columbus, or Springfield, or Madison, Des Moines, Omaha, Minneapolis, small towns in Michigan, Kansas City, Indianapolis, resort towns in Wisconsin, Iowa City, etc, etc.

Rust belt areas are more notorious for what they stand for, but that would be like saying everyone who lives in San Francisco is gay, everyone in LA has blond hair and surfs 24 hours a day, everyone in New York is an investment banker, people in the DC metro all work for the federal government, and metro Miami is only made up of Cubans. You're missing the majority, and only focusing on the stereotype.

Rust Belt is a small and diminishing subset of the greater region.
Cleveland isn't poster child rust belt anymore. If Cleveland is, then you should add St. Louis and Milwaukee to that list.
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Old 04-12-2010, 09:11 PM
 
Location: Austin, TX/Chicago, IL/Houston, TX/Washington, DC
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Nah, there's 3 or 4 of us :P

But I know Detroit can make it. I've spent time working with the poor there, and met people from all over the burbs to Gratiot to Woodward to Michigan Ave., all the way to the Rencen and the Grosse Pts.

The soul found in Detroit will save itself. Hard work and love are a part of the city's culture!
I believe Detroit can do it!
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Old 04-12-2010, 09:44 PM
 
Location: The canyon (with my pistols and knife)
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Cleveland isn't poster child rust belt anymore. If Cleveland is, then you should add St. Louis and Milwaukee to that list.
The problem with Cleveland is that much of the manufacturing in the area was still heavily reliant on the auto industry, and they now need to find new jobs to compensate for the old jobs that were lost.
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Old 04-12-2010, 09:50 PM
 
Location: Blue Ash, Ohio (Cincinnati)
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The problem with Cleveland is that much of the manufacturing in the area was still heavily reliant on the auto industry, and they now need to find new jobs to compensate for the old jobs that were lost.
No. My point is, Cleveland has re-invented itself with medical facilities such as the Cleveland Clinic and University Hospitals. Just look a University Circle, construction cranes dot their growing "skyline" if you will. Cleveland is doing just fine is showing the nation what it can do. I mention Milwaukee and St. Louis because they are similar cities that have those unique characteristics that get thrown under rug and aren't shown a lot. What I really find interesting in Cleveland's case is just how much Case Western has helped fuel bio start up companies in the region.

You want to talk about the auto industry and lost jobs, look at Detroit. They are the Pittsburgh of the 1980s. Dependant on one industry, and it really hurts your city.

Milwaukee, St. Louis, and Cleveland all have unemployment rates below the national average. Misunderstood images of the Rust Belt.
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Old 04-16-2010, 09:22 PM
 
Location: The Lakes
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I actually just put in my resume earlier today for some Detroit area jobs!

SO EXCITED!

I may be coming home.
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Old 04-16-2010, 11:50 PM
 
Location: Somewhere below Mason/Dixon
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I hate the term rust belt. It paints whole states in a negative light, even though its small isolated pockets that fit the stereotype. My state of Michigan has Detroit hung around its neck like a constant force pulling the whole state down. Most of Michigan looks absolutely nothing like the rust belt stereotype. Ohio, Indiana, Illinois and Wisconsin often face the same problem. Just because Indiana has Gary does not mean the whole state is rust belt. I wish people who live in the midwest, and the parts of the northeast that are called rustbelt would stop using the term. It is normally used by those running down the area.
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Old 04-17-2010, 07:56 AM
 
Location: Youngstown, Oh.
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I actually just put in my resume earlier today for some Detroit area jobs!

SO EXCITED!

I may be coming home.
Maybe you've seen this already, but, if not, you might be interested. Those on this site, who think Detroit is just one giant wasteland, should probably read it, too.
The Urbanophile Blog Archive The Other Side of Detroit

I think you'll find the same kind of support/supporters for almost all of the other rust belt cities, too.
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Old 04-17-2010, 04:01 PM
 
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Maybe you've seen this already, but, if not, you might be interested. Those on this site, who think Detroit is just one giant wasteland, should probably read it, too.
The Urbanophile Blog Archive The Other Side of Detroit

I think you'll find the same kind of support/supporters for almost all of the other rust belt cities, too.
This also shows another side of Detroit: Model D Home -- Detroit's Online News Magazine
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