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Old 07-10-2012, 10:05 PM
 
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Rochester, NY - cannot beat the infrastructure and the old neighborhoods. Unfortunately, local politics has been corrupted for generations, resulting in confiscatory taxes with little accountability. All of the old time statesmen vamoosed or died off, and the carpetbaggers moved in. Regrettably, the remaining citizens are either too exhausted or too dumbed down with entitlement checks to mount resistance - and the public union workers and pols, coupled with the welfare recipients and illegal aliens, now outnumber the taxpayers. Sad, but recoverable with a new sheriff in town.

Franklin, PA - near to the fabled original Western PA oil field from late 1800s -

Titus Well, PA - THE original Western PA oil strike location - a village in the middle of some spectacular country. The town has a real unified feel to it, as if people watch out for one another.
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Old 07-11-2012, 04:25 AM
 
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Rochester, NY - cannot beat the infrastructure and the old neighborhoods. Unfortunately, local politics has been corrupted for generations, resulting in confiscatory taxes with little accountability. All of the old time statesmen vamoosed or died off, and the carpetbaggers moved in. Regrettably, the remaining citizens are either too exhausted or too dumbed down with entitlement checks to mount resistance - and the public union workers and pols, coupled with the welfare recipients and illegal aliens, now outnumber the taxpayers. Sad, but recoverable with a new sheriff in town.

Franklin, PA - near to the fabled original Western PA oil field from late 1800s -

Titus Well, PA - THE original Western PA oil strike location - a village in the middle of some spectacular country. The town has a real unified feel to it, as if people watch out for one another.
Illegal immigration in Rochester? It is a metro that has continued to grow and has had new start up jobs in the area. I believe that unemployment has been below average too. It isn't without issues within the city, what city isn't?
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Old 07-11-2012, 04:49 AM
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To the OP, we just need a giant oil can to come in and pep these places up.
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Old 07-11-2012, 08:25 AM
 
Location: Nesconset, NY
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if the rust belt has been hurting badly for so long, then how come there are still so many people left there?

the economy of the rust belt cant be that bad if there are still that many people left

What is the economy of the rust belt now anyways?
Yeah, this thread is old but...
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The 'rust belt' is a misnomer that was used to sensationalize a situation. You're taking it too literally. Manufacturing in this area isn't 'gone' it just decreased from it's peak. People are there because not everyone worked in manufacturing and manufacturing isn't gone. The service sector increased.
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Old 07-11-2012, 08:49 AM
 
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To the OP, we just need a giant oil can to come in and pep these places up.
What would you suggest?
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Old 07-11-2012, 09:19 AM
 
Location: Jefferson City 4 days a week, St. Louis 3 days a week
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The Rust Belt is not hurting nearly as badly as before. the reason why many are still there IMO has to do with its location, as well as its suburbs. The suburbs of most rust Belt cities are among the best you'll find in the U.S. Living in a rust belt city myself, I can also say that a four season climate is very appealing to many. In addition, Rust Belt cities have extremely rich culture.
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Old 07-11-2012, 09:24 AM
 
Location: Jefferson City 4 days a week, St. Louis 3 days a week
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Yeah, this thread is old but...
Rust Belt - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The 'rust belt' is a misnomer that was used to sensationalize a situation. You're taking it too literally. Manufacturing in this area isn't 'gone' it just decreased from it's peak. People are there because not everyone worked in manufacturing and manufacturing isn't gone. The service sector increased.
I have a problem with wikipedia's definition of rust belt, specifically because it doesn't include STL or Cincinnati, both of which are as rust belt as any of these other cities. STL is filled with old steel mills, abandoned warehouses, and was and still is a heavy railroad port. IMO, all the following cities come to mind when I think "rust belt": Rochester, Syracuse, Buffalo, New York, Philadelphia, Baltimore, Pittsburgh, Cleveland-Akron-Canton, Toledo, Detroit, Cincinnati, Indianapolis (although you wouldn't know that looking at the city today), Chicago, Milwaukee, Cincinnati, St. Louis. All of these cities fit the profile of ones that were once mainly heavy manufacturing that have now made the transition to the financial sector.

It should be noted that many Fortune 500 companies are headquartered in the Rust Belt.
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Old 07-11-2012, 10:08 AM
 
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All of these cities fit the profile of ones that were once mainly heavy manufacturing that have now made the transition to the financial sector.

Does that mean everyone is a banker in these cities?
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Old 07-11-2012, 10:13 AM
 
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Oh, the horrible places people are forced to live:






The "Rustbelt" is one of the coolest areas in the nation. And one of the only areas where the col is not rediculous, its definately making a comeback.

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Old 07-11-2012, 11:31 AM
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What would you suggest?
Whoa. It was a joke. But, if you want one serious suggestion, fix the roads. They are pitiful. I know with the snow, salt and all of that, but, wow, the roads are not in good condition in the downstreet areas, a fair amount of them. And, for the taxes paid...Those county workers wouldn't mind some over time probably. Hehe.
Another suggestion, where I am currently, they have no local movie theatre. And, they had a nice community pool for the kids and adults and closed it a few years ago because they "couldn't afford it." You know what, you can't not afford to keep things up, looking nice and attracting nice families. They had bathhouses and a nice area, but now deserted.
And, another thing, when you browse for houses, having the houses look nice might help make the area overall more appealing. I looked at 35 houses and 2 were immaculate, 6-7 were in moderate condition, needing some work to a good amt. of work and the rest, 25 + were pig styes. 3 should have been condemned, no joke and not "cheap" to buy. I looked at a house 134,000 and it needed such massive work I couldnt' believe they would list it for that. The house we're renting, whoa, nice guy who owns it, but a fair amt. of work yet wants a "good" price. I learned of a house 149,000 where mice droppings all over the shelves and counters. Garbage in the front hall, etc. Comparably priced houses in non-rust areas are in pretty good shape--Florida, Arizona, NC, other places.
I'm reporting the news, not making it...

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