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Old 07-12-2012, 12:00 PM
 
Location: Columbus, OH
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People have mentioned that "rust belt" applies only to certain cities within these states, but even then it only applies to certain neighborhoods within those cities. I grew up in Lorain, which has a ton of impoverished neighborhoods due to a loss of factory jobs. It's also on the coast of Lake Erie, which means that there are a handful of gorgeous neighborhoods near the beach. If I drive in either direction west or east along Erie Avenue throughout the Cleveland metro, I see a lot of beautiful towns with lots of history and charm. You can't paint these places as all bad.
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Old 07-12-2012, 02:42 PM
 
Location: Indianapolis
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WFYI Indianapolis - Naptown to Super City
if you have 50 minutes to spare this is a GREAT documentary about a rust belt urban transformation of Indianapolis.
to the right of the screen it says watch online here. click on that to see this awsome video.
Any city looking to improve itself or turn itself around should take a look at this and learn from the big example Indy set.

There is nothing rust belt about Indianapolis anymore. its the fastest growing city/metro in the midwest and one of the most affordable places to live in the nation. we can thank our civic leaders in Indianapolis for starting this transformation 40 years ago. Ironically one of the main points in this article is about how Indianapolis did a great job preparing up and securing the rights to host Super Bowl 46.
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Old 07-12-2012, 04:00 PM
 
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Im from the Northeast, been all over the country, and I still dont understand the elitist mentality the Northeast has towards the rest of the US, especially the Midwest.

Its like the 90% of people that base NJ on North Jersey. Its a fad.



OP, its not like an entire region is just going to uproot and leave. What is with the thinking in absolutes around here?
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Old 07-12-2012, 04:56 PM
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When it comes to the rustbelt, people tend to focus soley on the negative. (Maybe it is the name "rustbelt") Which is funny, because the positives of the rustbelt tend to be the polar opposite of negatives of the coasts and sunbelt.

I guess what I am saying is no region in the United States is hands down "better"
True, you might as well just throw a coin to choose where to live.
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Old 07-12-2012, 05:04 PM
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Im from the Northeast, been all over the country, and I still dont understand the elitist mentality the Northeast has towards the rest of the US, especially the Midwest.
I find the Northeast classist, too. Um, "rich" live over there and the "poor" live over there and the "middle class" over there. Everyone has their slot and that's that. There's a rigidity in thinking in the northeast that is uncomfortable for me I am realizing since I've been back. In the West, people don't care. What you do doesn't matter much, and no one much cares. In our old neighborhood, people from all over the country, retired teachers, dentists, housewives and all the rest live in the same neighborhoods. Even dogs and cats live freely amongst them.
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Old 07-12-2012, 05:32 PM
 
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I find the Northeast classist, too. Um, "rich" live over there and the "poor" live over there and the "middle class" over there. Everyone has their slot and that's that. There's a rigidity in thinking in the northeast that is uncomfortable for me I am realizing since I've been back. In the West, people don't care. What you do doesn't matter much, and no one much cares. In our old neighborhood, people from all over the country, retired teachers, dentists, housewives and all the rest live in the same neighborhoods. Even dogs and cats live freely amongst them.
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Thats a stereotype and common characteristic of people in the East (Northeast really).


Too status conscious. Its 100% true. Elitist, classist, etc.

Its like one large caste system, and if its not people doing it, its cities (Boston, NYC, Philly, etc.)


So, yes, the rest of the country really doesnt give a **** about what we do/think/etc.
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Old 07-12-2012, 05:36 PM
 
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Its like dealing with hipsters.

Most people dont care about the things they care about, so they "win" because they care.
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Old 07-12-2012, 06:30 PM
 
Location: Jefferson City 4 days a week, St. Louis 3 days a week
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Does that mean everyone is a banker in these cities?
I should also have included the healthcare sector. In fact, several cities in the Midwest are among the top healthcare cities in the nation (Cleveland, St. Louis, Minneapolis). Although, Minneapolis is often not considered the rust belt.
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Old 07-12-2012, 07:42 PM
 
Location: IN
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Im from the Northeast, been all over the country, and I still dont understand the elitist mentality the Northeast has towards the rest of the US, especially the Midwest.

Its like the 90% of people that base NJ on North Jersey. Its a fad.



OP, its not like an entire region is just going to uproot and leave. What is with the thinking in absolutes around here?
The rural areas of the Midwest are subsizided at an extreme level by the government using taxpayer dollars. 1) Ridiculous waste from the Ethanol standard 2) Big corporate farms get subsidies when they don't need them 3) Unhealthy GMO crops and huge centralized feedlots/packing houses= unhealthy mass produced food. 4) Don't care for the social conservatism 5) Don't like the fact that many of the rural states there are government dependent and receive far more govt $$$ than they pay in taxes, mainly through an extensive array of military installations. 6) The USA does not have $$$ and has a massive $$$ federal defecit so why are we spending $$$$ on all these items when many could be scaled way back or eliminated???
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Old 07-12-2012, 08:12 PM
 
Location: Carrboro and Concord, NC
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(Northeast really).
Slowly but surely, it's creeping it's way down the entire East Coast - it's ain't just the Megalopolis that thinks in those terms anymore. You run into it in Atlanta, Charlotte, Raleigh, Miami as well. It's as if ANY city, in any spot on the E Coast, from South to North and back again, starts to become a big/major city, a certain classism and affluenza very, very swiftly tends to infect the area.

Not true in the rural areas of the E Coast states, but that just shows how most of the states, from FL to (at least) MA are two states in one: the cities, and everyone else.
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