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Old 01-14-2009, 06:48 PM
 
Location: San Francisco
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Green Bay WI
Duluth MN
Both of those are solidy democratic.
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Old 01-14-2009, 06:51 PM
 
Location: San Francisco
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Oh and by the way, most educated cities tend to lean on the liberal side of things.
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Old 01-14-2009, 07:03 PM
 
Location: Road Warrior
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So, I've seen TONS of threads asking which city is ultra liberal, gay friendly, tech savy, diverse, hip-hop, etc.... I want to know which cities, or metro areas do you think would be best for someone looking for the exact opposite? A place where old values, ultra conservative beliefs, religion, low crime, and lack of diversity, as well as being an outdoorsy place is firsthand?

Other important factors but less than the ones above would be good weather, lack of "slum" like neighborhoods, and education. Here are a few that I have visited that may fit the bill, but I could be wrong........

1. Salt Lake City
2. Colorado Springs
3. Tulsa
4. Nashville
5. Lubbock
Greenville, SC "buckle of the Bible Belt" so to speak, you can get to the appalachians and smokeys from there, about a 3 hour drive to the beach down in Charleston (a lovely historic city).

Colorado Springs is ok, sort of like an enclave sometimes deemed the Bible Belt outside the Bible Belt, mainly it's federal territory, safe and great outdoors nearby.

Salt Lake City is not exactly conservative IMO, I guess I should say it's Mormon-servative which is slightly different. They do like illegal immigrants mainly because they wish to convert more people to their Church. There's generally a few "Bishops daughters gone wild" at the same time and a lot of Californians moving there. You'll get the keeping up with the Jones attitude from both sides. Once again great outdoors, conservative family norms generally yes, but a totally different vibe.

Montana, perhaps the last libertarian state left, very conservative in the approach they don't like outsiders too much, great outdoors definetly, very lenient gun laws and one of the safest states in the nation at the same time. As long as you avoid Missoula or First Nation territories, there's generally a lack of diversity.

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Oh and by the way, most educated cities tend to lean on the liberal side of things.
Well it's an interesting concept but the top 1% of richest folks vote Republican 90% of the time. And yet the poorest States are generally also Deep Red. Likewise the Bluest of States, so-called liberals are more cooperative (socialism) yet CA and NY are the most competitive of States. And the most educated of cities say Ann Arbor or Boulder are generally very liberal, but so are the least intellectual of folks (poor, homeless, etc.) thus I'd have to consider it a generally accepted myth or misconception.
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Old 01-14-2009, 07:38 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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Both of those are solidy democratic.
I don't know about Duluth but Green Bay certainly is not Democratic, solidly or otherwise. Even if Duluth is, I don't think anyone is going to mistake it for a notably progressive city.
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Old 01-14-2009, 09:01 PM
 
Location: San Antonio, TX.
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RangerDuke08 - Thank you, another place we are thinking of visting is Montana. Possibly the Billings, Sheridan, WY., and Bozeman areas. Have family up there so that's a plus. I like the idea of all the hunting, and fishing there is to do up there, and the "lack" of gun laws.
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Old 01-14-2009, 09:47 PM
 
Location: Augusta GA
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How is PTC the opposite of what they are wanting? I lived there 18 years and it was VERY socially conservative (votes 95% Republican) and quite religious as well. Crime was low, there was not a whole lot of diversity, and it was very outdoorsy. As a liberal, it was not my cup of tea, but it seems to fit their criteria.
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Old 01-14-2009, 09:55 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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Take a look at the Fort Smith region in western Arkansas, near the Oklahoma border. That is arguably the most conservative region in the entire country. I would say its more 1950s than 1980s but it is still old-fashioned American values. Life centers around church, family, and friends, and almost everybody votes Republican (and if you don't, you don't go around advertising it). Gays are not tolerated and mostly stay in the closet. Schools still have prayer and nobody challenges it. Sounds like a place you would find yourself at home in.
A kid from my school moved here from Fort Smith a while ago, boy is he just plane, ughhh..... he calls me a certain heavily derogatory word for gay when I'm not even gay.
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Old 01-14-2009, 10:24 PM
 
Location: Road Warrior
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RangerDuke08 - Thank you, another place we are thinking of visting is Montana. Possibly the Billings, Sheridan, WY., and Bozeman areas. Have family up there so that's a plus. I like the idea of all the hunting, and fishing there is to do up there, and the "lack" of gun laws.
No worries. All great places, though if your from TX you'll have to adjust to the altitude, air, sunshine up in the Rockies. Invest in a good humidifier. Farther north winter gets longer as well, prob a good 7 months. Sheridan to Billings is a good place, actually the ridge runs from Buffalo up to Sheridan and Sheridan is just a skip away from Billings if you need the comforts of an actual city. Western Montana is where it's at for now, though pricier, more mountainous a lil less hospitable if your coming from down South, lots and lots of scenary, great place to retire I'd say or raise a family, not so ideal for the single cowboy. Job market is often better in Wyoming with its abundance in natural resources particularly oil speculation, it is however generally sparsley populated with towns in the 3000-30,000 range. Western Montana would have larger towns 50,000-80,000 scattered around. To me moving to those places really comes down to family and what the wife and kids interests are as well. Good luck.
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Old 01-14-2009, 11:06 PM
 
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Two other areas that come to mind:

Rapid City, SD - great outdoors area, less harsh winters compared to Fargo, Duluth, and Green Bay. Similar weather and views of Billings, but they seem more welcoming.

Tri Cities area of NE Tennessee (Kingsport, Bristol, Johnson City) - Very conservative and religious, near Great Smoky Mtns NP, nice climate, very safe
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Old 01-14-2009, 11:18 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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Two other areas that come to mind:

Rapid City, SD - great outdoors area, less harsh winters compared to Fargo, Duluth, and Green Bay . . .
And as you say that, it's currently 0 degrees in Rapid City. To someone from Texas, I'm not sure the difference between Rapid City, Green Bay and Duluth winters is noticeable.
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