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View Poll Results: Which Midwestern City Would You Most Like to Move to?
Cleveland 9 6.08%
Columbus 10 6.76%
Cincinnati 6 4.05%
Detroit 2 1.35%
Indianapolis 11 7.43%
St. Louis 22 14.86%
Kansas City 8 5.41%
Milwaukee 19 12.84%
Minneapolis 42 28.38%
Other--Specify 19 12.84%
Voters: 148. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 04-03-2009, 07:54 AM
 
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People like to hold on to their stereotypical misconceptions of a city, even if they've never been there. I don't live in Milwaukee, but I have a daughter living in Mequon, a northern suburb. As with every big city, there are areas to avoid. Then, there are working class areas of a city, just like in every other big city.

Milwaukee's east side - Shorewood, Whitefish Bay, Fox Point, are beautiful, and the stunning lakefront is a trump card that many other Midwest cities don't hold. Here's an interesting article - Hear the vroom at the new Harley museum in Milwaukee - Travel - LATimes.com

Milwaukee is also where Santiago Calatrava, internationally known Spanish architect, chose to create his first U.S. masterpiece. The Quadracci Pavilion addition to the Milwaukee Art Museum is amazing.

The suburbs are definitely where the money is in Milwaukee, but the East Side has a lot of wealth. The Historic Third Ward is on the National Register of Historic Places, and this is home to the Milwaukee Institute of Art and Design, renovated warehouse loft condos, restaurants, galleries, theater groups, etc.

Milwaukee's close proximity to Chicago does, at least to me, make it a more attractive option than cities that don't have that. You can go Chicago for an afternoon of shopping or an evening of entertainment. Not that you have to, but you can.

That's my two cents worth. I don't expect to change anyone's mind, but that's just how it goes sometimes.
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Old 04-03-2009, 10:41 AM
 
Location: Fishers, IN
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I would venture to say the suburbs of Vancouver are a heck of alot more diverse then anywhere in the midwest. Places like Abbotsford and Surrey have double digit minority populations. When you walk the streets and even the suburbs of Vancouver you hear people speaking many different languages.

It seems that the largest minority populations in Minneapolis and Milwakuee are African American.
What's the point in this? Or, are you saying that cities in which African-Americans comprise the largest minority population are, as you call them, "crap wholes."
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Old 04-03-2009, 01:09 PM
 
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Yeah I looked at pics of milwaukee and it looked nice. It does kinda seem like a mini chicago with the river, and lake. Milwaukee also cant be that crappy because it's population hasn't shrunk as much as most northern cities.
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Old 04-03-2009, 01:09 PM
 
Location: British Columbia.
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Immigrants from eastern Europe = more White people = Vancouver is not more diverse than Milwaukee or Minneapolis.
Wow obviously you did not read the numbers I posted. The East Asian population of vancouver is nearly 40 percent. This does not even include the suburbs. And these are Asians from over 11 different nations.

On top of that there is a sizable "Native North American" population, plus a small percentage of blacks and Latin peoples. When you combine those numbers together you get a substantially more diverse population then either Minneapolis or Milwaukee. Vancouver is really an international city in terms of racial make up.

Plus the suburbs of Vancouver are quit diverse. Places like Richmond B.C. has double digit minority populations. I can't say the same for Minneapolis.
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Old 04-03-2009, 01:48 PM
 
Location: Colorado Springs,CO
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I was born in Cleveland and lived there for a most of my life so that would be my choice, that or Chicago. Cleveland has many great things going for it, the one big downfall is that it has a pretty bad economy and that was even before these hard economic times. It also has a high crime rate, but that really doesn't bother me because the more and more I look at stats every city has a pretty high crime rate and your not going to escape that in any large city/metro with over 1,000,000 people. Even many smaller metro areas have pretty bad crime problems.
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Old 04-03-2009, 08:40 PM
 
Location: Lower East Side, Milwaukee, WI
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Wow obviously you did not read the numbers I posted. The East Asian population of vancouver is nearly 40 percent. This does not even include the suburbs. And these are Asians from over 11 different nations.
Why do you consider Vancouver to be diverse when it is 40% Asian, but Milwaukee is somehow not as diverse when it is 40% Black?

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On top of that there is a sizable "Native North American" population, plus a small percentage of blacks and Latin peoples. When you combine those numbers together you get a substantially more diverse population then either Minneapolis or Milwaukee. Vancouver is really an international city in terms of racial make up.
Just like Milwaukee has a sizable Latino population, plus a small Native American, Asian, Pacific Islander, and mixed-race peoples? When you combine those numbers you get a city that is equally as diverse as Vancouver.

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Plus the suburbs of Vancouver are quit diverse. Places like Richmond B.C. has double digit minority populations. I can't say the same for Minneapolis.
I can't speak for Minneapolis, but here are a few Milwaukee suburbs that have double digit minority populations:

Brown Deer, WI
82.04% White
12.51% Black
0.25% Native American
2.62% Asian
0.04% Pacific Islander
0.66% other races
1.88% two or more races
2.14% Latino

West Milwaukee, WI
83.58% White
3.50% Black
1.55% Native American
2.55% Asian
0.07% Pacific Islander
5.86% other races
2.90% two or more races
12.00% Latino

Glendale, WI
86.76% White
8.13% Black
0.23% Native American
2.96% Asian
0.10% Pacific Islander
0.49% other races
1.33% two or more races
1.77% Latino

Racine, WI
60.91% White
20.32% Black
0.40% Native American
0.61% Asian
0.05% Pacific Islander
7.14% other races
2.57% two or more races
12.95% Latino

Sturtevant, WI
80.25% White
15.79% Black
1.15% Native American
0.40% Asian
0.21% Pacific Islander
0.83% other races
1.36% two or more races
5.73% Latino
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Old 04-03-2009, 08:45 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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First of all, you are admitting having never been to Minneapolis, but you're going to say that it's more "cosmopolitan" and "progressive" than Milwaukee. Based on what? Cosmopolitan means "composed of people or elements from many different countries or cultures." Going by that definition, how can a city that is 65% white, like Minneapolis, be considered cosmopolitan?

As far as being more progressive than Milwaukee, how many Socialists has Minneapolis or St. Paul elected to the office of mayor? Milwaukee has had four Socialist mayors. The governor of Minnesota is a Republican, Tim Pawlenty. Wisconsin has Jim Doyle for our governor, a Democrat. Al Franken was involved in an extremely close race, which has yet to be resolved, against incumbent Republican Senator Norm Coleman. Meanwhile, Wisconsin has Herb Kohl and Russ Feingold, both Democrats. Also, one of the craziest politicians I have heard or seen in a long time, Republican Congresswoman Michelle Bachman, represents a number of the Twin Cities northern suburban areas. I'm not saying Minnesotans are more conservative than Wisconsinites, I'm just that they're not more liberal either.
Cosmopolitan is a state of mind, not defined by some percentage of racial composition. Based on what I know, I'd pick Minneapolis in this regard.

Milwaukee is a slow-moving, racially-segregated city with limited opportunites...and don't you forget it either.
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Old 04-03-2009, 09:03 PM
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Location: Foot of the Rockies
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I don't mind snow or cold; I'd go to Minneapolis.
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Old 04-03-2009, 10:47 PM
 
Location: Mequon, WI
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The tweeny cities seem to suburban to me, Milwaukee has a lot of people from eastern Europe which gives it that bigger city feel. I think the people in Milwaukee are more eccentric as well and more fashionable. The Twin Cities didn't feel like a big city when ever I go there, I feel like a Chicagoian who goes to Milwaukee on the weekend, plus we drive faster than people up there as well. The Twin Cities don't have that urban feel to it, not that there is anything wrong with trees but the whole city feels like a giant suburb. Plain white and boring is how I would describe the nightlife. As someone who has done the nightlife in Miami, Chicago, Twin Cities, Milwaukee I would pick Milwaukee anyday of the week. This is coming from a guy who used to hate Milwaukee before I saw the rest of the country. The Twin Cities are just too laid back for me I need more pulse in a city. Granted I live downtown Milwaukee. The Twin Cities are just a large Madison.
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Old 04-03-2009, 10:54 PM
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Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Drive faster than people in the TC? Maybe so, but that's hardly positive. They drive like veritable bats out of H*** up there!
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