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Old 06-07-2015, 09:09 AM
 
Location: A Yankee in northeast TN
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Well, to be honest, that's the result of conservative politics, for ya. That's what happens when nobody wants to spend a lousy dime on edumacation, and pay the teachers even less. And then turn around and pi $$ & moan about the horrible shape the public schools are in.
Fail. IQ isn't something that can be taught and has nothing to do with 'edumacation' or teacher pay.
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Old 06-07-2015, 10:13 AM
 
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You can't rank an entire state with labor force data. Our country has pockets of "high IQ" populations based on the numbers and types of jobs available. This concentration usually occurs in large metro areas and cities, is comprised of tech/engineering and biomedical research, and has a majority that received their college degrees elsewhere.
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Old 06-07-2015, 10:50 AM
 
Location: Auburn, New York
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IQ is no indicator of intelligence.

I know that I am very smart when it comes to building connections between abstract concepts or applying abstract theories into practice. However, I am dumb as rocks when it comes to spatial relations, geometry, or anything mechanical. I also fail at spreadsheets and anything that requires an attention to detail. In terms of language skills, I know a lot (I think I'm a good writer, and I speak four languages), but learning it was long, hard struggle.

So, I am a person who is in many ways more intelligent than average, in many ways less intelligent than average, and I try hard to learn things that interest me, even if I'm not naturally gifted in those areas. I don't think one multiple-choice test can capture that complexity. Further, if one test cannot capture that complexity at the micro level of the individual, it certainly cannot indicate "intelligence" on the macro level of a state.
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Old 06-07-2015, 10:58 AM
 
Location: Miami Beach, FL/Tokyo, Japan
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Lived in number 5 on this list (Minnesota) and 48 on this list (California). If it weren't for this list I wouldn't be aware that such a big difference existed between them.
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Old 06-07-2015, 11:34 AM
 
Location: A Yankee in northeast TN
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IQ is no indicator of intelligence.

I know that I am very smart when it comes to building connections between abstract concepts or applying abstract theories into practice. However, I am dumb as rocks when it comes to spatial relations, geometry, or anything mechanical. I also fail at spreadsheets and anything that requires an attention to detail. In terms of language skills, I know a lot (I think I'm a good writer, and I speak four languages), but learning it was long, hard struggle.

So, I am a person who is in many ways more intelligent than average, in many ways less intelligent than average, and I try hard to learn things that interest me, even if I'm not naturally gifted in those areas. I don't think one multiple-choice test can capture that complexity. Further, if one test cannot capture that complexity at the micro level of the individual, it certainly cannot indicate "intelligence" on the macro level of a state.
I agree with a lot of your post, however a real IQ test (as opposed to those online things) consists of a series of tests. They are designed to test the different areas of intelligence and it is quite possible to score very high in some areas while scoring much lower in others.
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Old 06-07-2015, 05:54 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Lived in number 5 on this list (Minnesota) and 48 on this list (California). If it weren't for this list I wouldn't be aware that such a big difference existed between them.
I think this whole premise is bunk. There's no link to the OP, just these numbers. There's no indication where they came from. There are probably more differences among people in one state (say, Minnesota) than among the collective people from two different states, say MN and CA.
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Old 06-10-2015, 06:54 AM
 
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Using an IQ test to determine whether one is 'smart', proves conclusively that you aren't. If you have misunderstood what IQ is before you've started the tests, you've already failed them.
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