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Old 01-27-2009, 07:29 PM
 
Location: USA
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Maybe it's just the circles I run in, but I have met literally hundreds of former southerners in Chicago.

There's not a specific neighborhood where Southerners congregate, (although there used to be a big Appalachian population in Uptown) because it's not as if we're talking about an ethnic enclave. Still, there are restaurants and bars that are certainly Southern in flavor, and you can find bluegrass bands and stage shows around the city that are southern-fried.

I know that's the case with NYC, as well, and am sure that's probably true of most decent-sized cities.
Southerners almost could be considered an ethnic group!
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Old 01-27-2009, 07:31 PM
 
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Southerners almost could be considered an ethnic group!
Oh, I feel that way, from time to time! But, of course, as there is no language barrier, and as regional identity has been diluted by a variety of factors, being from Alabama isn't a whole lot different than being from Michigan, as far as Chicago's concerned.
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Old 01-27-2009, 09:12 PM
 
Location: The Magnolia City
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Any city with a large Black population in the North considering most came by way of the Great Migration. Many Midwestern cities like Detroit, any major city in Ohio, Indiana and Illinois, got their share of White Southerners too.
Well if they're descendants from the Great Migration period then they can't be considered as southerners. Only the older individuals who came from the south, themselves (they would be in their 80s or 90s by now)
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Old 01-27-2009, 09:25 PM
 
Location: Phoenix metro
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Lots of Southerners around Chicagoland. I work with 2 ex-Texans, 3 ex-Mississippians and 1 ex-Georgian. My old neighbors from my old town were from Georgia, too. Oh, and my bro's ex-girlfriend was originally from Kentucky (if you consider KY the south).
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Old 01-27-2009, 09:41 PM
 
Location: Jersey City
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I work with a two guys from Florida, one woman from South Carolina, and a guy from Georgia. I'm from Virginia. There's a guy from Maryland too, if that counts. Only two people in my Manhattan office are actually from New York.

Anecdotal as it is, I feel I've met quite a few people from the south in Philadelphia.
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Old 01-28-2009, 05:18 PM
 
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Well if they're descendants from the Great Migration period then they can't be considered as southerners. Only the older individuals who came from the south, themselves (they would be in their 80s or 90s by now)
Actually, the migration went well into the 1970's, if not the '80's. So, that's not necessarily true. For instance, my father came from Mississippi in 1965 to Syracuse and my mother came from South Carolina around 1963. My mother still has a Southern accent and my dad's accent only comes up for certain words.
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Old 01-28-2009, 05:44 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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Actually, the migration went well into the 1970's, if not the '80's. So, that's not necessarily true. For instance, my father came from Mississippi in 1965 to Syracuse and my mother came from South Carolina around 1963. My mother still has a Southern accent and my dad's accent only comes up for certain words.
Not to mention that kids usually follow the traditions and patters of their elders. Also, many blacks in the Midwest and Northeast still visit their family in Chicago from time to time so they pick up those habits a bit. When I was in Chicago, you wouldn't find much of a different between Black Chicagoans and Black Southerners. In fact, I could have swore I was in Mississippi at times when I was up there.
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Old 01-28-2009, 05:45 PM
 
Location: Silver Springs, FL
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St Louis is considered Midwestern, there are a ton of folks there with Southern roots, or are transplants.
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Old 01-28-2009, 05:55 PM
 
Location: The Magnolia City
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Actually, the migration went well into the 1970's, if not the '80's. So, that's not necessarily true. For instance, my father came from Mississippi in 1965 to Syracuse and my mother came from South Carolina around 1963. My mother still has a Southern accent and my dad's accent only comes up for certain words.
That's not right. The Great Migration is documented as ocurring loosely between the 1910s and the 1940s. My grandparents were apart of that. Now, there's the arguable Second "Great" Migration which was between the 40s and the 70s, but by 1965 America was already witnessing the New Great Migration which was the mass return of African Americans to the South.
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Old 01-28-2009, 06:00 PM
 
Location: The Magnolia City
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Not to mention that kids usually follow the traditions and patters of their elders. Also, many blacks in the Midwest and Northeast still visit their family in Chicago from time to time so they pick up those habits a bit. When I was in Chicago, you wouldn't find much of a different between Black Chicagoans and Black Southerners. In fact, I could have swore I was in Mississippi at times when I was up there.
Naw, Chicago folk are just country lol. Seriously though, I always found it strange that some people from Chicago speak with a "northern-ish" accent, while others sound straight southern.
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