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Old 03-24-2009, 04:21 PM
 
Location: West Lawn
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The way i see it is that if we get the games then we get new roads and they might even improve the rail system, which would be great.
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Old 03-24-2009, 04:32 PM
 
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The rail system is fine WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE
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Old 03-24-2009, 04:48 PM
 
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Now, with the comment about geography,ie., London 2012 and (possible) Madrid 2016. The IOC is not looking at that factor as their main decision factor.
That's just not true. I'm aware they're officially declining there's a geographical balancing of any kind, but of course that's a lie. Just look at the last 10 or 15 summer games. They are NEVER held at the same continent back to back. And there is no way in hell they'll do it 2016 with Madrid. I'd be willing to bet any amount of money on that. Tokyo is clearly better off in that regard, but it's still a handicap.
And if you compare South Africas bid for the summer games to Rios bid today, it's pretty obvious they're world's apart. Rio would be totally capable of hosting the games. Though I love your optimism that all the corruptuion is eliminated, I doubt you're right. The well organised mebers representing the "western world" still have plenty of influence. The IOC is not a scientific commitee to determine the best city, it's still basically a political institution. And as we all know, politic's a dirty business.
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Old 03-24-2009, 05:09 PM
 
Location: West Lawn
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The rail system is fine WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE
a few expantions would be nice thought
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Old 03-24-2009, 05:17 PM
 
Location: City of North Las Vegas, NV
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The Olympic commitee dislikes doing the games in the same continent back to back.
Thus, Madrid is probably out. Tokyo is also too close to Beijing in distance and time alike.
There have not been any games in South America. Rio has a good chance but their very high crime rate is a big negative. Chicago has a very good chance especially now with a likely "pull" from Obama's part.
A bit more on the topic here: http://www.city-data.com/forum/sport...ur-cities.html
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Old 03-24-2009, 06:00 PM
 
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Yeah... No. Madrid stands very little chance.

I think it's between Chicago and Tokyo. As someone else has noted, the IOC tends to dislike the extreme fiscal analysis the United States does. We also have the only capable cities on the planet able to effectively host and run these things, which irritates the Europeans to no end

It's a big political mess right now, and my friends here in Sao Paulo have gotten prickly. I've assured them with typical American apathy just how much I don't care, which seems to just irritate them that much more
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Old 03-24-2009, 06:21 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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The one major disadvantage we have going in is that our federal government will not guarantee any revenue shortfalls. Instead, we're relying on the city and the state, both facing deficits and by law unable to run on a deficit. Would Daley dare touch the slush fund from the Skyway and parking meter operations? The city has guaranteed 500 mil so far, and the state 250 mil. Hopefully it'll be enough.

I'd say it's highly unlikely the city will expand public transit. best case scenario is they refurb some stations, get new cars and hopefully repair the Howard branch of the red line. The city's Olympics application focuses on enhancing existing transportation with leased buses.
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Old 03-24-2009, 06:30 PM
 
Location: Logan Square
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The one major disadvantage we have going in is that our federal government will not guarantee any revenue shortfalls. Instead, we're relying on the city and the state, both facing deficits and by law unable to run on a deficit. Would Daley dare touch the slush fund from the Skyway and parking meter operations? The city has guaranteed 500 mil so far, and the state 250 mil. Hopefully it'll be enough.

I'd say it's highly unlikely the city will expand public transit. best case scenario is they refurb some stations, get new cars and hopefully repair the Howard branch of the red line. The city's Olympics application focuses on enhancing existing transportation with leased buses.
I think I read that Howard has now completed renovations.

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: http://www.chitowndailynews.org/Chic...complete,24159

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Old 03-24-2009, 07:19 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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I think I read that Howard has now completed renovations.

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: CTA's Howard-station renovation complete | Chicago News, Events and Culture | Chi-Town Daily News
Yes - I was referring to the entire north branch (Howard branch) of the red line which is a real mess when you get north of Addison. Not just the Howard station. And the Evanston branch is even worse. Trackwork, new signals, and viaduct repairs. It's a major project and should take priority over expanding service.
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Old 03-24-2009, 07:36 PM
 
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Shootings, like they had down at last summer's "Taste", I think will keep Chicago from being picked. Chicago's crime rate will be the only reason it doesn't get picked. It's murder rate is just too visible, too high, and too well known.
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