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Location: Jefferson City 4 days a week, St. Louis 3 days a week
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Originally Posted by DinsdalePirahna
To me, a mild winter is a complimentary of a region. A desirable trait.
Yet in a typical St. Louis sel-aggrandizing manner, you want to make a Saint Louis winter seem like a winter in Chicago or New York: Bigger, Better or Worse than it actually is.
Yes. I grew up along the Hudson River Valley. Winters could get pretty bad there (although not as Buffalo or the Northern New England.). I moved to CA because I hate cold Weather.
Being used to Southern California winters, I can honestly say that the winters in Saint Louis are not has bad as you would expect them to be and were mostly tolerable.
Well, I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but you were not here during the right years. If the actual statistics told me this place had mild winters, I'd readily accept that. Since my 25 plus years of living here, and my family has lived here since 1970, then I'm more inclined to believe them, my own experience, and factual data. I am not disputing St. Louis' being mild due to my perception of it as a bad trait. If you honestly believe St. Louis' winters remind you more of Southern California than of Chicago, YOU are the one out of touch with reality. New York City's winters are backed up by statistics. Compare St. Louis' average highs and lows to New York City from December through February and you'll see me I'm not sel-aggrandizing anything. According to the NOAA, NYC's annual snowfall as of 2008 was only a couple of inches above STL. I'm using actual snowfall records to base my conclusions on. Check wunderground.com or the NOAA if you believe I'm making things up. You know all you've got is your opinions to go on, so now you're resorting to personal attacks. I have a friend from St. Louis who now lives in Upstate New York...he still doesn't consider St. Louis to be mild...just compared to Upstate New York it is. So...relative to Chicago, I have never disputed St. Louis to be mild. As far as being mild compared to the rest of the U.S., that I STRONGLY disagree with. In the winter, we are at least the average of the U.S. if not more severe than average. That's just how it is.
Last edited by stlouisan; 12-27-2011 at 01:18 PM..
All I said was that St. Louis is the southernmost major midwestern city, and has one of the most tolerable winters compared to, say, Chicago or Minneapolis.
Location: Jefferson City 4 days a week, St. Louis 3 days a week
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Originally Posted by DinsdalePirahna
To me, a mild winter is a complimentary of a region. A desirable trait.
Yet in a typical St. Louis sel-aggrandizing manner, you want to make a Saint Louis winter seem like a winter in Chicago or New York: Bigger, Better or Worse than it actually is.
Yes. I grew up along the Hudson River Valley. Winters could get pretty bad there (although not as Buffalo or the Northern New England.). I moved to CA because I hate cold Weather.
Being used to Southern California winters, I can honestly say that the winters in Saint Louis are not has bad as you would expect them to be and were mostly tolerable.
Well, since your opinion is all from your perspective, and not with anything I can base facts on, I'll have to take it with a grain of salt. If I were not from ST. Louis, and I looked at a map, I'd expect it to be exactly what it is....varied in the winter. If you don't believe St. Louis can get bad winters, look up the history of its winters. It's got over 100 years of recorded snowfall and temperatures. It should tell you everything you need to know...two years here is nothing.
Location: Jefferson City 4 days a week, St. Louis 3 days a week
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Originally Posted by JustAnother
All I said was that St. Louis is the southernmost major midwestern city, and has one of the most tolerable winters compared to, say, Chicago or Minneapolis.
Then I apologize if I overreacted...I thought you said something else. We're in agreement then.
Location: Jefferson City 4 days a week, St. Louis 3 days a week
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Originally Posted by GraniteStater
This has been one of the warmest starts to winter on record for the entire country this season.
No debate there. So far, St. Louis has had more snowfall than Chicago, which is a rarity, and we're still below our average for this time. As far as temperatures go, this feels like early spring.
This winter has been strange. The weather guy last night said Chicago has only seen one day so far with a high temp below freezing. Last year by this time we'd had dozens. We've also only gotten flurries two times so far, with a total of like one inch of snow.
Yesterday felt FREEZING to me because it was only 33 degrees. Most winters that would just be normal. Today is like 45, and the next few days are near 50. Still no snow in sight, and our big "freeze" as the weather people threw a fit about for next week is highs of 29 for two days before going back up to the 30's and 40's.
"People in Chicago are going to want to move after this winter"
The bone chilling cold weather and extreme snowfall expected to be worst in December into January, before easing in February.
Reality....one of the warmest Decembers with the least amount of snow in the city's history.
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