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Old 12-31-2011, 10:49 AM
 
Location: The City
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I know, but I was trying to demonstrate the power of humidity with heat indices. In MN it reaches 100+ every other year on avg., and 97+ a few times a year, so I'm probably using that statistic when thinking for Chicago (which has very similar weather).

It seems this area of the country may have the most dramatic variation with hot summers and cold winters realtively speaking

How close is the weather to Chicago, just curious really
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Old 12-31-2011, 11:52 AM
 
Location: Chicago, IL SouthWest Suburbs
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I know, but I was trying to demonstrate the power of humidity with heat indices. In MN it reaches 100+ every other year on avg., and 97+ a few times a year, so I'm probably using that statistic when thinking for Chicago (which has very similar weather).
Well you bring up a good point with the humidity levels.

I understand what your talking about some others may not.

Humiture same as wind chill expect to point out the "real feel" in summer.

We may have extremes in Illinois but we have a beautiful fall.

Winters in the are seem to be grossly exaggerated.

I love the seasons and actually enjoy a climate that has differentials.

AZ is a great place but its not for everyone.

For instance someone who is at a high risk for skin cancer the desert soutwest would be one of the worst spots to live.
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Old 01-01-2012, 07:14 PM
 
Location: NJ
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I saw the "feels like" readings, or heat indices, this summer and checked out what Phoenix was compared to the Midwest, South and Northeast.

Phoenix at 120 feels like 110
Chicago at 98 feels like 115 (with a dew point of 80ish)

Granted, that's not every day, but that just goes to show you that what you are perceiving isn't entirely incorrect, and that even cities far north of Phoenix with lower temp. readings can feel hotter than Phoenix on some summer days!
I may be wrong, but I can pretty much say with certainty chicago doesn't get a dew point of 80. I'd say 73 is pretty rare too.
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Old 01-01-2012, 11:55 PM
 
Location: In the heights
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I may be wrong, but I can pretty much say with certainty chicago doesn't get a dew point of 80. I'd say 73 is pretty rare too.
Historically, it has reached 80 and slightly above for brief and rare stretches, but you're definitely right in that it's generally quite a bit lower.
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Old 01-06-2012, 02:33 PM
 
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Chicago and St. Louis have a good deal of differentiating climate aspects. If you think Chicago is hot and humid in the summer don't move to St. Louis. I thought I was in heaven when I came to Chicago. You only have one hot month in Chicago, and the average temps back it up. The winter, on the other hand, is flipped around. St. Louis does have mild winters, in comparison. I remember plenty of years in St. Louis getting negligible snowfall, and when it does snow, it's gone in a day or two usually. Not the case up here in Chicago.
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Old 01-08-2012, 06:09 PM
 
Location: Jefferson City 4 days a week, St. Louis 3 days a week
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Chicago and St. Louis have a good deal of differentiating climate aspects. If you think Chicago is hot and humid in the summer don't move to St. Louis. I thought I was in heaven when I came to Chicago. You only have one hot month in Chicago, and the average temps back it up. The winter, on the other hand, is flipped around. St. Louis does have mild winters, in comparison. I remember plenty of years in St. Louis getting negligible snowfall, and when it does snow, it's gone in a day or two usually. Not the case up here in Chicago.
In comparison only. As far as St. Louis getting negligible snowfall, that's a matter of opinion and what you're used to. St. Louis' winters are usually moderate. They are either moderate, are capable of being severe, but can also be mild. So I call them moderate simply because they are unpredictable. Chicago's are severe, and at least predictable. So I would not call it entirely flipped around. Almost all of the Midwest south of Chicago experiences frequent thaws, but those thaws are only for a few days, then the snow can be replaced. Last winter, the snow stuck for two weeks at a time. I agree that you will feel like you've left real winters when you come to St. Louis from Chicago, but only to an extent. You have to go about another 100 miles to the south before you get truly mild winters. Chicago also doesn't get nearly as much ice as St. Louis.
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Old 01-08-2012, 06:37 PM
 
Location: Duluth, Minnesota, USA
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Just wondering if there are any large and/or mid-sized cities/regions that have surprisingly non-horrible winters. Of course, everyone defines "horrible" differently -- right now I live in Chicago, and I would definitely describe their winters as horrible, as in "really, REALLY cold and tons of snow."

I've heard Denver doesn't actually get *that* cold, which shocked me (one generally thinks of anywhere in Colorado as having really rough winters, etc.). Are there any other places where winter is surprisingly not that bad?
Not only is Denver quite warm in the winter, but even points further north of Chicago in South Dakota enjoy generally pleasant winters. Rapid City, South Dakota hits 50 regularly in the winter, and sometimes gets above 70...in December and February! Impressive for a place on the same line of latitude as southern Minnesota.
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Old 01-08-2012, 09:29 PM
 
Location: IN
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Not only is Denver quite warm in the winter, but even points further north of Chicago in South Dakota enjoy generally pleasant winters. Rapid City, South Dakota hits 50 regularly in the winter, and sometimes gets above 70...in December and February! Impressive for a place on the same line of latitude as southern Minnesota.
Most of South Dakota stays cold during an "average" winter. Places like Aberdeen and Watertown routinely get colder than -30F at time during winter.
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Old 01-08-2012, 10:13 PM
 
Location: Duluth, Minnesota, USA
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Most of South Dakota stays cold during an "average" winter. Places like Aberdeen and Watertown routinely get colder than -30F at time during winter.
That's why I said Rapid City. Those places in eastern South Dakota are about just as cold as Minnesota.
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Old 01-08-2012, 10:45 PM
 
Location: IN
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That's why I said Rapid City. Those places in eastern South Dakota are about just as cold as Minnesota.
Rapid City can have some warmth with the chinook, but the extreme temperature swings there will get anyone's attention.
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