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Old 02-10-2010, 10:00 AM
 
Location: Denver
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I think Europe is ugly. The U.S. has several different cities that are comparable to European culture and architecture but all of Europe is basically the same old looking stuck-in-the-1600s father time aged buildings. I can't stand staying in Europe for more than 2 weeks and I don't know HOW in the world I would be able to live there. At least with the U.S., there is a wide variety of different cities and lifestyles and architecture you could thrive being and take pride in. Canada and South America are also on par with this. But Europe is always the same! So why judge us??
Haha you're joking, right?
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Old 02-10-2010, 10:33 AM
 
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Haha you're joking, right?
Haha no. Why I should be ashamed of my country? Never. I love EVERYTHING about America - strip malls and all. It is one of many different cultural things that seperate us from the rest. Why is it that despite our so many "strip malls" and "ugly architecture", so many people from around the world want to be here? People from across the world love to hate on America but they also want to be here and take advantages of all it's opportunities. Don't trash a place and want to be there at the same time. That's not right. I easily find all kinds of things wrong with Europe I hate. Everybody thinks Europe is untouchable and so beautiful and special and yadda yadda yadda. I don't. Been there, done that. I don't see what's the big deal. All of it's countries are just like other ones across the world. So I don't see why we have to be ashamed of what we have here. We have Los Angeles, San Francisco, San Diego, Portland, Seattle, Austin, Houston, Miami, Orlando, Atlanta, Boston, Washington D.C., Chicago, & New York City and in between. There's so many varieties of America's beauty. What exactly is TOO ugly for the OP?
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Old 02-11-2010, 05:07 AM
 
Location: Cold Frozen North
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Haha no. Why I should be ashamed of my country? Never. I love EVERYTHING about America - strip malls and all. It is one of many different cultural things that seperate us from the rest. Why is it that despite our so many "strip malls" and "ugly architecture", so many people from around the world want to be here? People from across the world love to hate on America but they also want to be here and take advantages of all it's opportunities. Don't trash a place and want to be there at the same time. That's not right. I easily find all kinds of things wrong with Europe I hate. Everybody thinks Europe is untouchable and so beautiful and special and yadda yadda yadda. I don't. Been there, done that. I don't see what's the big deal. All of it's countries are just like other ones across the world. So I don't see why we have to be ashamed of what we have here. We have Los Angeles, San Francisco, San Diego, Portland, Seattle, Austin, Houston, Miami, Orlando, Atlanta, Boston, Washington D.C., Chicago, & New York City and in between. There's so many varieties of America's beauty. What exactly is TOO ugly for the OP?
I for one agree with you allenk. I've never been to Europe and don't plan on it. Everything I want is here. I like strip malls. Very convenient to get in and out of. I like modern suburban architecture with spread out big box stores, large enclosed malls, large parking lots and beautiful landscaping and don't care much for cities. This is my ideal shopping environment and what I've been used to for 30 years.

I would probably be very disappointed if I went to Europe especially considering all the hoopla you here about it.
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Old 02-11-2010, 05:24 AM
 
Location: Boston, MA
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The US is what you get when you have money and plenty of land in which to spend it.
Remember, it was Europeans, who were jammed up in European cities, who built American cities.
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Old 02-11-2010, 09:47 AM
 
Location: St Paul, MN - NJ's Gold Coast
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Europe has been building on its lands for thousands of years.
The USA has been building on its lands for a few hundred years. Therefore we have the rapidly built, modern, non-creative architecture in a lot of our suburbs.
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Old 02-11-2010, 10:16 AM
 
Location: Denver
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Haha no. Why I should be ashamed of my country? Never. I love EVERYTHING about America - strip malls and all. It is one of many different cultural things that seperate us from the rest. Why is it that despite our so many "strip malls" and "ugly architecture", so many people from around the world want to be here? People from across the world love to hate on America but they also want to be here and take advantages of all it's opportunities. Don't trash a place and want to be there at the same time. That's not right. I easily find all kinds of things wrong with Europe I hate. Everybody thinks Europe is untouchable and so beautiful and special and yadda yadda yadda. I don't. Been there, done that. I don't see what's the big deal. All of it's countries are just like other ones across the world. So I don't see why we have to be ashamed of what we have here. We have Los Angeles, San Francisco, San Diego, Portland, Seattle, Austin, Houston, Miami, Orlando, Atlanta, Boston, Washington D.C., Chicago, & New York City and in between. There's so many varieties of America's beauty. What exactly is TOO ugly for the OP?
Do you work for Fox News? If not, you did a fantasttticccc impression there! Take my question about why you hate Europe and somehow flip it to make it sound as if I think we should be ashamed of America. Bravo! Rush would be proud.

Where did I say you should be ashamed of America? I love the United States...I was referring to the fact that you were talking about how ugly Europe is and that it all looks the same.

Anyway, in no way do I think we need to be ashamed of our country. I simply found your claim that all the cities in Europe look the same to be...um...interesting? I don't see how Rome looks like Paris or London or Moscow. In what way does Monte Carlo look like Berlin or Zurich? How about Istanbul and Milan?
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Old 02-11-2010, 10:44 AM
 
Location: moving again
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The USA has been building on its lands for a few hundred years.
Don't forget the native American civilizations that have been built here.
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Old 02-11-2010, 10:59 AM
 
Location: Trieste
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I tend to agree with the OP and with the others who agreed with him , to me it seems most US cities are soulless , unelegant and utilitarian , it's the kingdom of quantities , there's a lack of respect for life and the human beings , I mean you don't build a highway in the middle of a urban core!how dare even to think a stupid oppressive thing like that??

Moreover European cities are mostly intelligible to everyone the American ones aren't.
When you're walking in an European city you're very easily get used to its scheme , there's usually an historical center , the oldest going back to the classical times , then as you go further away from this core you will see styles changing , the medieval with its Romanesque and then Gothic buildings , the Renaissance , the modern era , the neogothic and so on until you reach the XX century area , and then as you approach the outskirts the diversity of residential areas , condos , luxury condos , detatched or semi-detached houses , villas , the highways etc and you hardly need to drive a car since public transportation are really efficient , both on the surface and underground.

The typical American city is totally different , the center looks cold and aseptic to me , there ain't no real sense of community but nothing but parking lots , multi parking lots , malls , hospitals , offices , some unusual desert area tha pops up here and there , driveaways , abandoned plants , whole abandoned districts , factories , I assume none really live there and the center is more an utilitarian and industrial concept than a space for human beings and relationships.
Citizens are relegated on the outskirts where urban sprawl spread even for tens of miles and public transportation is no as extended as the in Europe , mostly because of racial motivations.

Of course there's also exceptions to this general rule , cities in the North East , the oldest ones , sometimes look more European and some European cities , especially those who suffered major destruction in WWII look less typically Euro , say Rotterdam.
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Old 02-11-2010, 11:35 AM
 
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I think Europe is ugly. The U.S. has several different cities that are comparable to European culture and architecture but all of Europe is basically the same old looking stuck-in-the-1600s father time aged buildings. I can't stand staying in Europe for more than 2 weeks and I don't know HOW in the world I would be able to live there. At least with the U.S., there is a wide variety of different cities and lifestyles and architecture you could thrive being and take pride in. Canada and South America are also on par with this. But Europe is always the same! So why judge us??
This is hilarious. How old are you - 17? Please enlighten me on how many European cities you have explored. It must be quite a few for you to have such a good grasp on the types of cities, lifestyles and architecture available.

Also, weren't you the one who started a thread awhile back about wanting to study abroad in Switzerland? Why would you subject yourself the horror of it all?
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Old 02-11-2010, 01:11 PM
 
Location: St Paul, MN - NJ's Gold Coast
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Don't forget the native American civilizations that have been built here.
Honestly, that's a very tiny part of American architecture.
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