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Old 02-20-2009, 06:23 PM
 
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It's too bad the OP didn't do his homework before making such ridiculous claims.


Here's Lincoln Memorial University in Harrogate, Tennessee:










The Lincoln Museum at Lincoln Memorial University:


 
Old 02-20-2009, 07:05 PM
 
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im sorry there is a great statute of abraham lincoln at vicksburg national park.
i see others posted as well. your post is why i dont start threads, for sure somebody is guna catch me.
Vicksburg, MS

Kentucky's Memorial at Vicksburg on Flickr - Photo Sharing! (http://www.flickr.com/photos/23591833@N00/319930708/ - broken link)
 
Old 02-20-2009, 07:20 PM
 
Location: Richmond
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Um, because he was a Traitor?

They just put his lousy statue at the Tredegar Iron Works in Richmond. Many people here were not happy about that...
 
Old 02-20-2009, 07:32 PM
 
Location: Kentucky
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There are four Lincoln statues that I know of in Kentucky...I couldn't find a photo of the 4th.

Kentucky State Capitol on Flickr - Photo Sharing! (http://www.flickr.com/photos/laughingsquid/1417704471/ - broken link)


Lincoln Statue, Hodgenville, Kentucky (KY) on Flickr - Photo Sharing! (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bobindrums/3032431241/ - broken link) Abraham Lincoln on Flickr - Photo Sharing! (http://www.flickr.com/photos/65215866@N00/487770172/ - broken link)
Lincoln wasn't really revered here until about the 70's, before that he really wasn't cared for. (At least that is what was said on PBS last week )
 
Old 02-20-2009, 07:36 PM
 
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He held the country together at his darkest hour yet they dont acknowledge him why?
What do you mean by, "don't acknowledge" him?

As it is, Lincoln's birthday is not even singularly today recognized by the federal government! Neither is Washingtons. Both are blended into a "Presidents Day". As an individual, only Martin Luther King has a so-named federal holiday.

But anyway, as to actual history of why Lincoln's Birthday was not -- back in the day -- recognized as a state holiday in many Southern states? That is, when it was considered so in many other states?

*shrug* Very simple. The Southern states were in a seperate nation, and Lincoln was not the president. Had nothing to do with not acknowledging the man. Or even thinking that things might not have turned out better (Reconstruction wise) had he lived. In fact, the opposite.

But let us Southerners choose our own heroes, ok?

Again though, all this stuff belongs in a seperate forum...and there are plenty for it.

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Old 02-20-2009, 07:37 PM
 
Location: Richmond
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Lincoln wasn't really revered here until about the 70's, before that he really wasn't cared for. (At least that is what was said on PBS last week )
For good reason. Lincoln was a Southerner from Kentucky and turned his back on his own people. His family also came to Kentucky from Virginia.
 
Old 02-20-2009, 07:40 PM
 
Location: On the Great South Bay
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Um, because he was a Traitor?

They just put his lousy statue at the Tredegar Iron Works in Richmond. Many people here were not happy about that...
Perhaps you believe that America would be better broken up into many different countries? Please remember that it would not had stopped at just two - the Union and the Confederacy. Indeed the Confederacy in principle believed its member states could secede at any time.

Just for starters if it were not for the United States - who would have conquered Hitler and the Nazis? The Japanese?

Who contained the Soviet Union and communism?

And which country in the world has sacrificed its own workers in order to let other countries in Europe and Asia sell their cheap goods here? Do you think Europe would have recovered from WW2 so quickly - and that Asia would have boomed the way it did if it was not for the United States letting them dump their goods here in the so called "free trade"?
 
Old 02-20-2009, 08:24 PM
 
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Really, this 'un needs to be taken to the history forum, but...

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Perhaps you believe that America would be better broken up into many different countries? Please remember that it would not had stopped at just two - the Union and the Confederacy. Indeed the Confederacy in principle believed its member states could secede at any time.
And so did, originally, every colony of England or else they wouldn't have seceded from the "mother country". The Southern states had a better argument in this regard. A precedent. What both the United States and Confederate States constitutions and basic declarations of independence recognized was that government derived its powers from the consent of the governed. I can think of no more sublime principle as to what is the essence of a free people.

It has nothing to do with rhetorical epigrams as to whether or not one believes it would be better if this or that happened. Fact is, North won, South lost, and anything else is just historical speculation...which leads to this:

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Just for starters if it were not for the United States - who would have conquered Hitler and the Nazis? The Japanese?

Who contained the Soviet Union and communism?
Well, I would say it this way. Since Southerners have always been disproportionately represented in our nations armed forces, there might be two different realistic scenarios:

The Northern states and Southern states would have combined to whip them or: the Confederacy would have jumped into it first!

One might not like Ann Coulter, but she pegged it right here as to just what part of the country, defeated or not a century ago, considers themselves the proudest of Americans! Did then and do now. And prove it.

Ann Coulter

Now, can we move this dad gum thing to the history forum? LOL
 
Old 02-20-2009, 08:27 PM
 
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Why no statues of Robert E. Lee and Stonewall Jackson up north?
 
Old 02-20-2009, 08:29 PM
 
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I dunno I've never been to the South except Miami and D.C. in TX and AZ there are some i've seen though.
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