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Old 02-20-2009, 06:05 PM
 
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show them this. It's very easy to bury your head in the sand and admit your ancestors were too stupid to develop a vibrant economy based on wages and basic human rights..




Here's Mississippi's Declaration of Secession From The Federal Union - 1861.


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A Declaration of the Immediate Causes which Induce and Justify the Secession of the State of Mississippi from the Federal Union - 1861

In the momentous step which our State has taken of dissolving its connection with the government of which we so long formed a part, it is but just that we should declare the prominent reasons which have induced our course.

Our position is thoroughly identified with the institution of slavery-- the greatest material interest of the world. Its labor supplies the product which constitutes by far the largest and most important portions of commerce of the earth. These products are peculiar to the climate verging on the tropical regions, and by an imperious law of nature, none but the black race can bear exposure to the tropical sun. These products have become necessities of the world, and a blow at slavery is a blow at commerce and civilization. That blow has been long aimed at the institution, and was at the point of reaching its consummation. There was no choice left us but submission to the mandates of abolition, or a dissolution of the Union, whose principles had been subverted to work out our ruin.

 
Old 02-20-2009, 06:26 PM
 
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Prior to unionization, I wouldn't say slave wages offered to immigrant factory workers in the industrialized north was all that much of a utiopa either. Do some history homework before coming on here and trying to start a flame war.
 
Old 02-20-2009, 07:12 PM
 
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Prior to unionization, I wouldn't say slave wages offered to immigrant factory workers in the industrialized north was all that much of a utiopa either. Do some history homework before coming on here and trying to start a flame war .
Which is all it is. There are plently of other forums and threads in which to discuss/debate the causes and issues of the "Civil War".
 
Old 02-20-2009, 07:14 PM
 
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show them this. It's very easy to bury your head in the sand and admit your ancestors were too stupid to develop a vibrant economy based on wages and basic human rights..
Take it to another forum. Meanwhile, read up a bit before you get so smug and self-righteous...

Slavery in the North
 
Old 02-20-2009, 07:19 PM
 
Location: Richmond
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Oh god.
 
Old 02-20-2009, 07:19 PM
 
Location: southern california
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to be fair, and to refute what i think is not the most accurate post i have seen, southeners were of the best educated (in england) of the united states at that time.
they were an agricultural society, not an industrial.
the civil war was indeed about states rights. the north was imposing foreign tarifs for english trade and huge tarifs on goods sent up river. very unfair. the error of the south was not their abused rights-- which indeed were violated. their error was practicing a great evil-- slavery-- and being arrogant enough to attack an army much stronger and better equipped than they. the south was ill prepared to launch such a war. this was indeed stupid for which they paid a horrible price in the rape of the south aka "reconstruction".
 
Old 02-20-2009, 07:48 PM
 
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Or you can say "The last battle ended 144 years ago, let it go". Let it go.
 
Old 02-20-2009, 07:49 PM
 
Location: Richmond
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Jefferson Davis himself said "We fight not for slavery, but for states rights"
 
Old 02-20-2009, 07:50 PM
 
Location: Charlotte
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And people say southerners can't let it go...
 
Old 02-20-2009, 07:53 PM
 
Location: Richmond
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And people say southerners can't let it go...
Let what go? Northern Aggression?
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