Where does the South begin? Which states are South? (merged threads) (transplants, chapel)

[Richmonder27]

They both went for Obama last election. NC and VA (especially NOVA) have a heavy amount of transplants- probably more than any other Southern states. They are fast becoming "Mid-Atlantic"

50 years ago Northern Virginia was a pretty Southern area. Now it is Mid-Atlantic bordering on Yankee.

Richmond is still holding on to its Southern fort, but now its only mildly Southern. Years ago it was like Savannah!



NC which was Southern too, is now more "Southern-Lite".

Chapel Hill , Raleigh, and "The Triangle" has all gotton very very liberalized. You are more likely to find places that sell tree hugging kits than sweet tea.

Asheville is very Yuppy, and not in the Southern way.


What do Y'all think? I hate to see them go. They are in danger of loseing their membership in the Southern Club.

[Alexus]

Originally Posted by Richmonder27

They both went for Obama last election. NC and VA (especially NOVA) have a heavy amount of transplants- probably more than any other Southern states. They are fast becoming "Mid-Atlantic"

50 years ago Northern Virginia was a pretty Southern area. Now it is Mid-Atlantic bordering on Yankee.

Richmond is still holding on to its Southern fort, but now its only mildly Southern. Years ago it was like Savannah!



NC which was Southern too, is now more "Southern-Lite".

Chapel Hill , Raleigh, and "The Triangle" has all gotton very very liberalized. You are more likely to find places that sell tree hugging kits than sweet tea.

Asheville is very Yuppy, and not in the Southern way.


What do Y'all think? I hate to see them go. They are in danger of loseing their membership in the Southern Club.

I hope so. The quicker that this country can diminish or even eliminate the southern states from any influence, the better this country will be. We've been anchored down by this region for too long.

[DeaconJ]

It's not about number of transplants and it's not about certain areas becoming "less southern". Ideas, attitudes, architecture, way of life, culture, etc. - it all changes with time and generations. The characteristics of what is considered southern have changed because of technology, travel, urban development, immigration, and enlightenment. NC and VA are still going to be southern, but they are changing just like every southern state is changing...and every state in every region for that matter. NC/VA don't have any more transplants than North Georgia or other larger cities in the South, so it's happening everywhere - and it's a good thing.

Time marches on...

[carolinablue]

Originally Posted by Alexus

I hope so. The quicker that this country can diminish or even eliminate the southern states from any influence, the better this country will be. We've been anchored down by this region for too long.

So because NC voted blue this past election, that makes it not southern? I find this comment ridiculous. I was born and raised in NC and I voted for Obama, along with a majority of my friends. I am southern, I live in a southern state, the way I vote or my state votes doesn't change that.

[Richmonder27]

Originally Posted by DeaconJ

It's not about number transplants and it's not any area becoming less southern. Ideas, attitudes, architecture, way of life, culture, etc. - it all changes with time and generations. The characteristics of what is considered southern have changed because of technology, travel, urban development, immigration, and enlightenment. NC and VA are still going to be southern, but they are changing just like every southern state is changing...and every state in every region for that matter. Time marches on...

I do agree about travel.

Look you can drive from Richmond to NYC and it takes 7.5 hours, but by plane its like an hour and a half. And Virginia and NC are now at New York's doorstep.

Even the Deep South is just not as "Deep"

[carolinablue]

Originally Posted by DeaconJ

It's not about number of transplants and it's not about certain areas becoming "less southern". Ideas, attitudes, architecture, way of life, culture, etc. - it all changes with time and generations. The characteristics of what is considered southern have changed because of technology, travel, urban development, immigration, and enlightenment. NC and VA are still going to be southern, but they are changing just like every southern state is changing...and every state in every region for that matter. NC/VA don't have any more transplants than North Georgia or other larger cities in the South, so it's happening everywhere - and it's a good thing.

Time marches on...

very very well said my friend.

[Richmonder27]

Originally Posted by carolinablue

So because NC voted blue this past election, that makes it not southern? I find this comment ridiculous. I was born and raised in NC and I voted for Obama, along with a majority of my friends. I am southern, I live in a southern state, the way I vote or my state votes doesn't change that.

Im afraid it does. Obama represents everything that concurs with NE Liberals. Socialism, National Health Care, Elitism, Arrogance...

The South usually votes Conservative/Republican (Sometimes "Southern Democrats_ but those are few and far between today). And the South in general has different issues that matter to them. More about Religion, and Freedom of Religion, small government, etc.

But I dont want to get off subject, lol

[ScranBarre]

TALK TO THE HAND!

Signed,

A Yankee liberal.

[LINative]

Originally Posted by DeaconJ

It's not about number transplants and it's not any area becoming less southern. Ideas, attitudes, architecture, way of life, culture, etc. - it all changes with time and generations. The characteristics of what is considered southern have changed because of technology, travel, urban development, immigration, and enlightenment. NC and VA are still going to be southern, but they are changing just like every southern state is changing...and every state in every region for that matter. Time marches on...

Exactly! Same for the north and west.

Take for instance New England. The majority of the earliest settlers were Puritians. They were not only anti-Catholic but also against most other Protestants. Today New England has a large Catholic population - but New England is still New England!

I love history myself but we cannot live in the past.

[carolinablue]

Originally Posted by Richmonder27

Im afraid it does. Obama represents everything that concurs with NE Liberals. Socialism, National Health Care, Elitism, Arrogance...

The South usually votes Conservative/Republican (Sometimes "Southern Democrats_ but those are few and far between today). And the South in general has different issues that matter to them. More about Religion, and Freedom of Religion, small government, etc.

Sorry but I 100% completley disagree with you. There's a whole new generation of voters, like Deacon said times change as well as attitudes.