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Considering moving from Florida and finding employment in Oil City, cost of living too high in South Florida, cannot make it without a six figure salary

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Old 03-21-2007, 09:24 AM
 
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Originally Posted by carolinajack View Post
living in Pa and having been in Oil City, what would make a person want to go there for living? a Job and cheaper prices? uh ok, i would rather a beautiful place with the same wages
Maybe you will wind up in WPB and get that job for $9 that NAH would not take. I do hear WPB is beautiful in the fall.

 
Old 03-21-2007, 12:59 PM
 
Location: WPB, FL. Dreaming of Oil city, PA
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$7.00-$8.00 an hour is about normal for an entry level job in oil city,and getting a job there isn't hard,but if you expect to start off anywhere $10.00 or better you may need luck because people jump on those jobs. So yes there are jobs,but overall cost of living there is cheaper.And yes you can make it there even if you are single.I did.

My dad thinks people jump on any job they can get so when I visit OC, there wont be any job openings left. If there are, what kind of job could I be looking at? Do they even care that I have an associate's college degree? My first job in south FL they did. Got $8 an hour instead of the FL min wage of $6.30(or something) but $8 an hour did me no good in south FL and I already spent that money on the crazy south FL a/c bills I really cant wait to move out. Very little a/c bills and heating bills of $100/month for a smaller 1000-1500 square feet house. Everything else is cheaper, even the food is.


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lots of places are right to work and they dont just pay minimum wage to college educated people.

the original thread doesnt make much sense. New York is very expensive but it is well worth the salaries and you dont have to live in the heart of the city to be able to have the job.

I wouldnt consider NYC unless I was making at least $150k a year because id need that much just to afford a studio or smaller 1/1 condo. If I wanted a very nice high rise on the upper floors, id have to make over $200k a year then. If I wanted two bedrooms instead of one, oh my im getting dizzy now!
Sorry but I am not willing to live in NJ or PA and commute 2 hours a day, I would rather just buy a small condo and take the subway 5 minutes to work. Its easier for me to deal with small spaces than wasting 4 hours of my life everyday.


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living in Pa and having been in Oil City, what would make a person want to go there for living? a Job and cheaper prices? uh ok, i would rather a beautiful place with the same wages

Oil City is beautiful, please look at Cosmic's pictures. Ill be taking pictures myself when I visit.
 
Old 03-22-2007, 12:39 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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Get a Fed. Govt. job then you'll be highly overpaid and can transfer to nearly anywhere you want and it will be affordable.
 
Old 03-25-2007, 08:01 PM
 
Location: Michissippi
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So what you're saying is even with your college education, you do not have a skill set that is worth more than about $10/Hr where you are? How is that an employers fault?
I suspect that a great many college graduates could say the same thing. It's a dirty little secret, but many people who graduate from college end up underemployed, involuntarily-out-field, unemployable in their career fields, and without a career, watching the values of their degrees decrease with every passing year. This makes perfect sense; just because people go to college, creating a supply of college-educated labor, that doesn't mean that the jobs that will make use of their degrees exist in sufficient quantity to employ them in those fields. Besides, only a small percentage of jobs actually make use of college education anyway. For example, we have many underemployed and underpaid science Ph.D.'s and I also know that our colleges are graduating about twice as many attorneys as the economy can comfortably support. Those are just two examples of degrees that would seem to be high-powered on paper but where many degree holders end up underemployed and/or involuntarily-out-of-field. I assume that the same can be said for MBAs and computer programmers. Aside from suffering the poverty of having to pay off the student loans while being underemployed, can you imagine how excruciatingly psychologically painful it must be?

So don't be so hard and condescending on NAH and please don't laugh at those of us who have suffered from the nation's having a large oversupply of college graduates as a result of the nation's "Education Arms Race". NAH is not alone in this predicament. Although suffering such a fate carries with it a stigma of shame and failure, if you understand what's happening to the nation's economy and why we have an education arm's race, people shouldn't be ashamed of it.

The media doesn't want to talk about or even acknowledge the existence of this growing group of Americans--those who are college educated and unemployed, significantly underemployed, and/or involuntarily-out-of-field and who have little hope for a satisfying career and return on their college investment. Instead the media and politicians proclaim that college education is the solution to the nation's economic problems as opposed to having sound economic policies.
 
Old 03-25-2007, 08:04 PM
 
Location: Michissippi
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A good example out of many is this. Miami has a median household income of 25,211 and a Median Housing Value of 248,500 according to the census. That means an average household in Miami would have to pay 9.8 years at their entire income to pay off the house.
Note that, presumably, that $25,211 median household income is before taxes. You need to subtract a couple thousand dollars from that and recalculate.
 
Old 03-26-2007, 12:22 AM
 
Location: WPB, FL. Dreaming of Oil city, PA
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This is why I am done with college, I feel that being self employed will make me more working for myself than a job with a master's or even phd. I have a friend who makes $45k a year with a masters and I know friends who never went to college making twice that being self employed. You do need good business, marketing and sales skill, lots of time(at least initially) and even luck. Not all businesses need a huge investment, I spent $150 to start a particular type of business and im already ahead. At this rate, I probably will have enough money saved up to visit Oil City in mid May.

If my business(es) go as planned, I will have enough money made and saved to move to Oil City sometime in September, else ill just wait till March 2008 because winter isnt the best time to relocate, but I still might if some desperate seller lets it go cheap. I need an income(before taxes) of at least $2000 a month to support myself in Oil City. Less than that and I will need a part time job to supplament my income.
 
Old 03-26-2007, 02:07 AM
 
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Do any of you feel that jobs in unaffordable cities are a waste of time? I feel that way in south Florida, everything is so expensive that money doesnt go a long way. I know people have told me to get a job and ive had an $8/hour job before that I hated. I am seriously considering getting a job in Oil City. Even at $8/hour goes a long way in Oil City because houses are a sixth the price of south Florida and everything else is like half as expensive.

I can not "make" it in south Florida without a 6 figure job and I do not want to stay here any longer than I need to. I make money with my home business and me getting a job in Oil City(if I find one) will supplament my home business income so I can live a nice middle class life there without having to be rich or making 6 figures.

Do any of you feel the same way, that you are "drowning" in your city with the high costs of living and insane house prices and that making the same money or even taking a salary cut would go so much further elsewhere? This is why I want nothing to do with south FL.
How would you know?
You've never had a paying job in your entire life...(so you have claimed)
Are you just here to Mock People that do??
 
Old 03-26-2007, 02:16 AM
 
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This is why I am done with college, I feel that being self employed will make me more working for myself than a job with a master's or even phd. I have a friend who makes $45k a year with a masters and I know friends who never went to college making twice that being self employed. You do need good business, marketing and sales skill, lots of time(at least initially) and even luck. Not all businesses need a huge investment, I spent $150 to start a particular type of business and im already ahead. At this rate, I probably will have enough money saved up to visit Oil City in mid May.

If my business(es) go as planned, I will have enough money made and saved to move to Oil City sometime in September, else ill just wait till March 2008 because winter isnt the best time to relocate, but I still might if some desperate seller lets it go cheap. I need an income(before taxes) of at least $2000 a month to support myself in Oil City. Less than that and I will need a part time job to supplament my income.
What College?
A "Community College" a Tech School?
What "Real College" would let you in, much less let you graduate, with absolutely HORRID English/Grammatical errors?


And don't even get me started on your"Critical Thinking" or the lack thereof...
Kid are you Developmentally disabled are just not playing with a full deck?


Whoever is helping you to "Support your Fantasy" is NOT helping you at all...
 
Old 03-26-2007, 06:51 AM
 
Location: VA
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I have seen Oil City and many other dying towns in PA that are similar. The reason costs are so low is there is limited opportunities to make good money. In nearby Erie, Pa they opened a casino and race track and thousands applied for jobs that pay less than $12 an hour.

I have a distant relative in Oil City and he is stuck in one factory job that he hates but owns a house he can not sell and is forced to stay in Oil City to pay the mortgage. He hates his life and wishes he would have moved out of Oil City and into a place with more opportunities.

In places with a booming economy like the DC area people have choices. Here in Northern VA there is a labor shortage and a resulting high cost of living.
 
Old 03-26-2007, 01:25 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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Originally Posted by Need_affordable_home View Post
This is why I am done with college, I feel that being self employed will make me more working for myself than a job with a master's or even phd. I have a friend who makes $45k a year with a masters and I know friends who never went to college making twice that being self employed. You do need good business, marketing and sales skill, lots of time(at least initially) and even luck. Not all businesses need a huge investment, I spent $150 to start a particular type of business and im already ahead. At this rate, I probably will have enough money saved up to visit Oil City in mid May.

If my business(es) go as planned, I will have enough money made and saved to move to Oil City sometime in September, else ill just wait till March 2008 because winter isnt the best time to relocate, but I still might if some desperate seller lets it go cheap. I need an income(before taxes) of at least $2000 a month to support myself in Oil City. Less than that and I will need a part time job to supplament my income.

Have you ever looked into Mexico? Cost of living is cheaper there than anywhere in the US. Or better yet, what about Guatemala? By your logic, thinking that only determiner of economic viability is housing prices, you should be able to live like a king there. You could buy a dwelling with a cool home-made tin roof in Guatemala City with the money in your pocket right now-- and have an easy commute to a job picking bananas!

Oh wait, you said you wanted cheap costs, AND a colder climate-- what about Afghanistan?
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