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03-20-2009, 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by skrazzle
Me and my gf have been together 7 years.... we will get married some day i'm sure, but not anytime soon, its just not a priority.
Being married does not mean we love each other more, our parents are both married and never divorced which seems almost rate, but we have grown up and seen people marry and divorce among our friends, etc...
point is, we will probably have kids soon, and it will be out of wedlock, but it doesn't mean we aren't a family and that its anything bad.
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Why are you making a conscious choice to have children out of wedlock. Who are your heros? Brad and Angelina?
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03-20-2009, 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by TANaples
Does it really matter since about half of those kids born into marriage will end up in a single parent household because of divorce anyway?
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Yes it does matter!
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03-20-2009, 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by TomDot
Yes it does matter!
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Not really. It doesn't really depending on the relationship of the parents prior to giving birth as much as it does the quality of the parents. It just so happens that parents who get married are more likely to be better quality. However, not even that means that a married couple is even likely at all to be good for a child anyway. And Correlation does not imply Causation, so getting married prior to raising a child will not magically make that child any more likely to turn out well.
My one good parent made me who I am and I wouldn't give her up for 10 neglectful, argumentative hypocritical, divorcees.
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03-20-2009, 04:12 PM
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No it doesn't
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Originally Posted by TomDot
Yes it does matter!
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if the couple involved don't give a crap about that piece of paper, or "god" and that church ceremony. You cannot FORCE something that isn't there.
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03-20-2009, 04:38 PM
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lol the peak was 50 yrs earlier. I guess the 50's weren't as rosy as some would have us believe.
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03-20-2009, 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by TANaples
if the couple involved don't give a crap about that piece of paper, or "god" and that church ceremony. You cannot FORCE something that isn't there.
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Alright you win, marriage does not matter.
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03-20-2009, 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by TomDot
Alright you win, marriage does not matter.
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I totally agree...if it's important to some people, then great! Get married as many times as you want!  If it's not a priority for some people, then great! Cohabitate and procreate!  Neither is right or wrong - it's just personal preference.
Either situation will produce its share of both good and bad parents...
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03-20-2009, 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted by grmasterb
How do we know that many of these children aren't being born to loving, stable, but unmarried couples?
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My sentiments exactly.
For all we know the parents can be engaged, a woman could be a lesbian...
Heck, some women just want to have a child without having a male around to raise it.
I'd much rather the child be born to a single woman than some couple who is going to break up within 5 years.
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03-20-2009, 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted by TomDot
Boy there is some serious rationalizing going on here!
70% of the male prisoners in the U.S. were raised by a single mother.
We cannot allow the normalization of out of wedlock births.
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The majority of prisoners were Christians before they committed their crime...want to explain that?
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03-20-2009, 11:44 PM
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Well, morality aside, I have raised two and it would have been hard to do all by myself!
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