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Old 03-24-2009, 04:09 PM
 
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Strongly agree!

It seems like when the inner-cities started to crumble, people simply moved into the suburbs and said "it's not my problem". Without middle-class tax revenue the inner cities would then crumble further.

I have long had an idea to rewrite the tax code so that instead of paying local taxes to your city or township, all munincipal tax revenue would be pooled across the metro area and divided to the munincipalities based on population (both residential and commerical population). This would do a great deal towards helping inner-cities and downtrodden municipalities within a metro area that are right now starved for funds that the wealthy and upper-middle class keep for themselves by moving into the suburbs and paying local taxes which only support their own infastructure and not the rest of the metro area, leaving a shocking gap between quality of services between some parts of the same metro area.
Sad, but true. You see that attitude here in the Syracuse area towards the city of Syracuse and some blue-collar and/or industrial suburbs like Solvay, East Syracuse and somewhat with Nedrow and Mattydale too.
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Old 03-24-2009, 04:11 PM
 
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Memphis doesn't have a good relationship with it's suburbs because Memphis is always trying to annex surrounding areas. Also, there is a difference in cultures between the city and the suburbs. The suburbs are more conservative, white, and Southern Baptist. Typical Bible Belt. While the city is a mixture of African Americans and more mainstream white American culture that you might see in most other cities. Mostly Methodist, Jewish, Catholic, and Presbyterian. Not the Evangelical types that are typical of the South. So the city is more liberal.
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Old 03-24-2009, 05:39 PM
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Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Doesn't Denver even have its own county?
Yes, it is the "City and County of Denver". When Denver annexes, Denver County expands as well. (The same is true of Broomfield.) But, as in some other cities named here, there are places where you don't notice if you have crossed the border into a burb.
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Old 03-24-2009, 05:55 PM
 
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Yes, it is the "City and County of Denver". When Denver annexes, Denver County expands as well. (The same is true of Broomfield.) But, as in some other cities named here, there are places where you don't notice if you have crossed the border into a burb.
San Francisco, Philadelphia and Baltimore are examples of which the city is an independant entity. Baltimore is different in that it is just called Baltimore City, with Baltimore County pretty much surrounding the city.
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Old 03-24-2009, 08:26 PM
 
Location: Bayou City
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Kansas City is less engaged with the suburbs because of the huge state line "problem." Kansas City covers counties in both Kansas and Missouri with a metro population of around 2 million. 700,000+ of those people live on the suburbs on the Kansas side of the state line. The metro has a very adversarial relationship and you find constant fighting about whether MO or the KS side of the state line has the advantage or does things better.
Wow, talk about some messy politics. I wonder how they manage to get anything done.
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Old 03-24-2009, 08:34 PM
 
Location: Bayou City
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Omaha doesn't really Have suburbs, just 2 true suburban cities south of the city, We've annexed the rest so we can develop our downtown, muahahahahahahaha!!!!
Doesn't Omaha and Council Bluffs have the twin cities thing going on?
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Old 03-24-2009, 09:02 PM
 
Location: IN
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Wow, talk about some messy politics. I wonder how they manage to get anything done.
Occasionally they get things done with bistate support in terms of stadiums, Union Station, etc. However, it is a very suburban oriented city like many other cities. New excitement has been brought back in the urban core due to the Power and Light District.
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Old 03-24-2009, 09:06 PM
 
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Doesn't Omaha and Council Bluffs have the twin cities thing going on?

The Iowa side is stable, but not really growing, around 90,000 in the county. They also have a huge amount of gambling/gaming, which Nebraska doesn't for legal reasons (hence no fighting here).

The Omaha/Nebraska side has a vast majority of the population as well.

I've never really noticed any fighting or "twin" thing going on. I think Omaha and Council Bluffs are fine together. Council Bluffs isn't really an envy, and Omaha has a lot to offer for the Iowa side.
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Old 03-24-2009, 09:08 PM
 
Location: IN
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The Iowa side is stable, but not really growing, around 90,000 in the county. They also have a huge amount of gambling/gaming, which Nebraska doesn't for legal reasons (hence no fighting here).

The Omaha/Nebraska side has a vast majority of the population as well.

I've never really noticed any fighting or "twin" thing going on. I think Omaha and Council Bluffs are fine together. Council Bluffs isn't really an envy, and Omaha has a lot to offer for the Iowa side.
Omaha has a good thing going on with the setup they have. When I lived in the KC metro they never really got it when it came to bistate cooperation. The population is more evenly distributed on both sides of the state line with MO having the advantage.
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Old 03-24-2009, 09:32 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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Doesn't Omaha and Council Bluffs have the twin cities thing going on?
Sort of, the two cities cooperate in many things, including the recently completed Bob Kerrey Pedestrian Bridge across the Missouri, however, out of our metro of about 850,000, the Nebraska side has about 725,000 of it, so we really out weigh them. Also note, Council Bluffs has about 60,000 of their 125,000. Also, there is a 3rd older city in the Area, Bellevue, but it is more often than not forgotten, although once they pass 50,000 by 2010, which they are shooting for, they should carry some more say in the metro, and then there are Papillion and La Vista, the 2 true suburban cities, La Vista has more business than Papillion, while Papillion has more people, La Vista has about 16,000 while Papillion has about 25,000.
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