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Old 03-23-2009, 02:22 PM
 
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Are there any cities that are highly engaged with their suburbs? By that, I mean cities that have a healthy/positive relationship with their suburbs and truly view them as an extension of city.

Conversely, what about the cities that are the least engaged with their suburbs? These cities might have a love-hate relationship with them, or some other odd or unusual relationship.
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Old 03-23-2009, 02:49 PM
 
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Detroit definitely has the most dysfunctional relationship with its suburbs of any city in America. Especially the Oakland County burbs. Not only is it extremely segregated by race, but(especially true of Oakland) it is extremely stratified by income inequality. It makes for Springer worthy material even from our own elected officials, ie: White Oakland County exec saying that members of the council belong in a zoo; many Black city officials essentially saying that Whites should keep out of Detroit.

At least there's never a dull day.
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Old 03-23-2009, 03:02 PM
 
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When thinking of cities that are least engaged with suburbs, Detroit actually came to mind first. I just wanted to gather others' input on this as well.

I feel like the newer cities like Atlanta, Houston, etc would have a very good relationship with their burbs because the line between city/suburb is very much blurred in their cases.
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Old 03-23-2009, 03:15 PM
 
Location: Youngstown, Oh.
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I think there is an adversarial relationship between most rust-belt cities and their suburbs.
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Old 03-23-2009, 03:33 PM
 
Location: metro ATL
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I was going to say Detroit as well.

Not sure which city has a really great relationship with its suburbs. Portland maybe?
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Old 03-23-2009, 03:33 PM
 
Location: 602/520
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Phoenix is very "engaged" with its suburbs. There are no other cities that blend into their suburbs as well as Phoenix. A lot of times, the only way you can tell you're in a different city is when the color of the street signs change.
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Old 03-23-2009, 05:10 PM
 
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Los Angeles doesn't really have a choice to but to be engaged with its suburbs. Nobody really is from "LA" . A typical conversation would be "Oh, were are you from?" The other person would respond, "L.A." "Really, where?" "Torrance." The same with San Diego as well. Also, most suburbs in SoCal are really edge cities. Irvine is a great example. Though suburban in nature, it's a major job hub in the region. Same with many other cities in SoCal.
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Old 03-23-2009, 05:42 PM
 
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While in general Chicago suburbs and city are very very different as far as layout, they get along pretty well. A lot of that is focused on downtown and the north side, and the fact that Metra delivers 360,000 rides every day between the city and the burbs. It helps keep hundreds of thousands of high paying jobs in the city that bring in suburbanites who would probably otherwise avoid the city. It helps the bond.
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Old 03-23-2009, 05:50 PM
 
Location: Newtown, Bucks County, Pennsylvania
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I think there is an adversarial relationship between most rust-belt cities and their suburbs.
Strongly agree!

It seems like when the inner-cities started to crumble, people simply moved into the suburbs and said "it's not my problem". Without middle-class tax revenue the inner cities would then crumble further.

I have long had an idea to rewrite the tax code so that instead of paying local taxes to your city or township, all munincipal tax revenue would be pooled across the metro area and divided to the munincipalities based on population (both residential and commerical population). This would do a great deal towards helping inner-cities and downtrodden municipalities within a metro area that are right now starved for funds that the wealthy and upper-middle class keep for themselves by moving into the suburbs and paying local taxes which only support their own infastructure and not the rest of the metro area, leaving a shocking gap between quality of services between some parts of the same metro area.
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Old 03-23-2009, 05:55 PM
 
Location: Southern Minnesota
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Detroit is definitely the worst for relationship with the burbs. There is a HUGE difference between the city of Detroit and Grosse Pointe or Livonia.
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