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View Poll Results: Which is the best?
Baltimore 37 30.58%
Cleveland 27 22.31%
Charlotte 57 47.11%
Voters: 121. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 03-29-2009, 12:28 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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Probably should just stay put. Baltimore and Cleveland are pretty comparable, but Baltimore has the advantages of milder winters, better historical architecture, and proximity to larger east coast cities. I would rank Charlotte lowest of the three.
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Old 03-29-2009, 12:36 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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I would rank Charlotte the highest of the three.
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Old 03-29-2009, 03:46 PM
 
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this is great. thanks for the opinions everyone, keep 'em coming and thanks for voting!
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Old 03-29-2009, 07:48 PM
 
Location: moving again
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Those rowhomes in Balto look great - if you're a professor at Johns Hopkins.
You don't have to be a millionaire to live nice in Baltimore

I would stay with Baltimore. In economic times like these, moving isn't a very good idea. Plus Baltimore is by far the most attractive of the three
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Old 03-29-2009, 09:01 PM
 
Location: Crown Town
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Charlotte is nothing like Baltimore or Cleveland, and I mean that in a good way. If you want to live in a city on the decline, rampant with urban blight, where many more people are leaving than are moving in, then choose Baltimore or Cleveland.

Baltimore: Blame Taxes for Baltimore's Rot - WSJ.com

Cleveland: America's Fastest-Dying Cities - Forbes.com

But if you want to live in a progressive city, one that is clean and one where people are actually moving too in great numbers because they actually "want" to be there, then go with Charlotte.

CHARLOTTE, USA









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Old 03-29-2009, 09:26 PM
 
Location: metro ATL
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Charlotte, a "banking center" built on paper debt money. Sounds like a good bet.

Charlotte, home of Billy Graham Parkway and NASCAR. Sounds pretty progressive.


Charlotte: The city that makes Atlanta look good by comparison.


Sorry. Somebody has to stand up for the Rust Belt.
Why do you have to put one down to exalt the other?

We all know the state of the banking industry now, but Charlotte's rise in the ranks when it came to banking was legitimate and pretty meteoric actually. As far as the future of that industry in the city, it's not going to be as stellar as it used to be, but that might turn out to be a good thing for us.

What's wrong with having a Billy Graham Parkway? Billy Graham is one of the most respected religious figures of our time, and it's only fitting that Charlotte recognize that. And despite its perceptions, NASCAR is a billion dollar industry that pumps millions of dollars into the local economy annually.

And Atlanta looks good on its own.

Look, we know Charlotte doesn't have loads of pre-WWII inner city neighborhoods and such, but it is a city which has accomplished much within a relatively short period of time. I have no idea why that's being disparaged.
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Old 03-29-2009, 09:38 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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Charlotte is nothing like Baltimore or Cleveland, and I mean that in a good way. If you want to live in a city on the decline, rampant with urban blight, where many more people are leaving than are moving in, then choose Baltimore or Cleveland.
Well, since Charlotte is so progressive and Baltimore & Cleveland are such backwaters I have a few questions:

Why does Charlotte have the lowest Gross Domestic Product of the three?

http://usmayors.org/metroeconomies/0107/GMPreport.pdf

Why does the Charlotte metro have the highest crime rate of the three?

http://os.cqpress.com/citycrime/MetroCrime2008_Rank.pdf

Why does Charlotte have the highest unemployment of the three?

Unemployment Rates for Metropolitan Areas

Why did it take so long for Charlotte to build a rail system when Baltimore has had one since the 1980's and Cleveland since the 1920's?

Baltimore Light Rail - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

RTA Rapid Transit - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 03-29-2009, 09:43 PM
 
Location: Salt Lake City, Utah
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Cleveland.
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Old 03-30-2009, 12:12 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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mental midget
Mental midget
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Old 03-30-2009, 12:19 PM
 
Location: Crown Town
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Well, since Charlotte is so progressive and Baltimore & Cleveland are such backwaters I have a few questions:
Why does Charlotte have the lowest Gross Domestic Product of the three?
http://usmayors.org/metroeconomies/0107/GMPreport.pdf
Because “for the moment”, those metro areas are much larger than Charlotte. More people means more output. And I said “for the moment” because you might want to check page 49 of that link. It shows GDP annual growth rates. Charlotte’s, at 6.9%, far outpaces Baltimore’s at 5.5% and almost doubles Cleveland’s (3.6%). Also, I would direct your attention to page 74; it shows “job growth” for each metro area.
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Why does the Charlotte metro have the highest crime rate of the three?
http://os.cqpress.com/citycrime/MetroCrime2008_Rank.pdf
Crime stats can be tough to compare between cities. Mostly because in places with derelict inner city neighborhoods many crimes go unreported. With that said, the one stat that is looked to most to gauge a city’s true level of crime is murder. Because murders can’t be undercounted or counted as “something else”. In 2007 Charlotte had the fewest of the three at 116, while Baltimore had a whopping 355!!!!!!!! (Cleveland had 129).

FBI stats: Table 6 - Crime in the United States 2007 (http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius2007/data/table_06.html - broken link)

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Why does Charlotte have the highest unemployment of the three?
Unemployment Rates for Metropolitan Areas
Charlotte’s high unemployment rate has much to do with the high number of transplants relocating here looking for work, you know, folks leaving places like Baltimore and Cleveland (see below)…

Article: WFAE 90.7 FM (http://www.wfae.org/wfae/1_87_316.cfm?action=display&id=4851 - broken link)

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Why did it take so long for Charlotte to build a rail system when Baltimore has had one since the 1980's and Cleveland since the 1920's?
Baltimore Light Rail - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
RTA Rapid Transit - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Of course, we know the answer to this one. Because these cities have been “big” cities for quite some time. Albeit they are going in the reverse now.

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