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Old 03-29-2009, 01:07 PM
 
Location: Minneapolis
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Who, in this comparison, is more "urban" influenced?
The 16 year old who was born in Milwaukee city and has lived their his entire life, or the 30 something who was born in a suburb and moved to New York City in his late twenties?

I would say the 16 year old, perhaps because all he has known is the city, where as the 30 something may live in a much bigger city but has lived in a suburb for most of his/her life. What do you think?
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Old 03-29-2009, 03:53 PM
 
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The 16 year old hasn't yet experienced adult life...living in a city as a dependant minor isn't REALLY living in a city. You said it best: "the 16 year old, perhaps because all he has known is the city". I would say that the adult who has experienced different living environments would be able to appreciate the advantages of urban living.

I'm only guessing at what you mean by "urban influenced"...
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Old 03-30-2009, 10:17 AM
 
Location: Back home in Kaguawagpjpa.
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I guess it depends. For example: the 30 year could have been living in NYC for 3 years, but may have lived in the NYC metro area for all his life. Even in NYC's burbs, it is still urban by most people standards. So, the 30 something could very well know NYC, because of day trips, school, work, etc.

Like the other poster stated before, the 16 year old may not have that much life "experience" when it comes to really knowing a city.
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Old 03-30-2009, 12:57 PM
 
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I vote for the Milwaukee kid. The other one is more prone to overlook the everyday social ills because they are living their indie fantasy. There is usually just a superficial fascination with their city, hardly a real understanding or connection.
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Old 03-30-2009, 01:15 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Natives (the 16 yo) usually know a city/place much better than transplants (the 30 yo) initially
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Old 03-30-2009, 01:22 PM
 
Location: Back home in Kaguawagpjpa.
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I vote for the Milwaukee kid. The other one is more prone to overlook the everyday social ills because they are living their indie fantasy. There is usually just a superficial fascination with their city, hardly a real understanding or connection.
Not everybody who moves to the city is living a yuppie dream. The 30 year for all we know, could be your average joe, such as teacher, bus driver, or working in an office.
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Old 03-30-2009, 01:51 PM
 
Location: Lower East Side, Milwaukee, WI
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Not everybody who moves to the city is living a yuppie dream. The 30 year for all we know, could be your average joe, such as teacher, bus driver, or working in an office.
If we're specifically talking about Manhattan, which is what most people are referring to when they say "the City," then I don't think a teacher, bus driver, or office worker could afford to live there.

I say the kid from inner city Milwaukee is more urban than someone from Upstate NY or suburban NJ or CT, (I'm excluding cities like Newark and Bridgeport).
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Old 03-30-2009, 03:06 PM
 
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I vote for the Milwaukee kid. The other one is more prone to overlook the everyday social ills because they are living their indie fantasy. There is usually just a superficial fascination with their city, hardly a real understanding or connection.
Exactly...a 16 year old can have much more life experience than one thinks growing up in the city.
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Old 03-30-2009, 03:15 PM
 
Location: Concrete jungle where dreams are made of.
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Depends which suburb of NYC. Some can be pretty urban. Many suburbs of NYC are probably more urban than Milwaukee (at least outside of their downtown area).
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Old 03-30-2009, 03:17 PM
 
Location: Concrete jungle where dreams are made of.
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If we're specifically talking about Manhattan, which is what most people are referring to when they say "the City," then I don't think a teacher, bus driver, or office worker could afford to live there.

Plenty of teachers I work with live in some of the most expensive areas of Manhattan. Teachers can afford to live in Manhattan.
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