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Old 03-27-2007, 06:04 PM
 
Location: CA
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Default what States Are NOT Right To Work?

Thanks very much!

 
Old 03-27-2007, 10:25 PM
 
Location: Helena, MT
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Montana, and we like it that way.
 
Old 03-28-2007, 07:24 AM
 
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Most of the northeast, midwest and west coast. Check out this link for a map. http://www.nrtw.org/rtws.htm
 
Old 03-28-2007, 07:41 AM
j33
 
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Gee, that site isn't biased is it?
 
Old 03-28-2007, 08:17 AM
 
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Ha, it was the one that laid it out clearest and accurately! The US government also has a listing, but it is easier to just glance at a map.
 
Old 03-28-2007, 10:35 AM
 
Location: Weston, FL
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Great info Mels. I read somewhere that there is an active move in Congress to make all states labor union or Forced Unionsm State. Have you heard about this?
 
Old 03-28-2007, 12:21 PM
 
Location: Naples
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Great info Mels. I read somewhere that there is an active move in Congress to make all states labor union or Forced Unionsm State. Have you heard about this?
I'd like to see where Congress is granted that power, in the Constitution.
 
Old 03-28-2007, 12:48 PM
 
Location: Heartland Florida
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Right to work is capatalism, forced uninization is communism.
 
Old 03-29-2007, 10:21 AM
 
Location: Shallow alcove hidden from the telescreen
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Default Labels defined

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Right to work is capatalism, forced uninization is communism.
Whatever those labels mean. What it means to normal working stiffs, at least in my experience, is respectively: low wages, no health insurance, and "burn 'em, turn 'em" job security vs. livable wages, the right to speak up without the threat of being fired, decent health plans, pensions, and more.

I would define it as, Right to Work - oppression; Unions - empowerment.

Last edited by Winston Smith; 03-29-2007 at 10:32 AM..
 
Old 03-29-2007, 12:00 PM
 
Location: Topeka, KS
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I would define it as, Right to Work - oppression; Unions - empowerment.
Eh, I recognize the value of a union, especially in harsh or dangerous working environments, but there's also an economic and productivity aspect to it as well.

(What follows is my recollection of stories I heard a decade ago. I don't know anyone personally involved and what I heard, was a retelling of the newspaper stories from residents, so take this with a grain of salt.)

There use to be a GE Medium Transformer plant in Rome, GA. The Union walked out of negotiations with Management, even after Management had capitulated on most of the talking points. Management negotiators warned the Union not to strike. The Union decided they weren't too concerned with what the negotiators were warning about, and the went on strike.

Upper Management heard the news, looked at the plant's payroll, QA and job completion records and the same data from their Mexico plant. The Mexican plant won on all counts other than transportation costs. Upper Management closed the Rome plant.

The Management Negotiators had offered 90% of what the Union wanted, with the opportunity for more with performance improvements. The Union was greedy, gambled, and cost the workers their jobs.

(So I guess you were right, the Union empowered the workers to go find a new job... )
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