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Old 04-06-2007, 01:39 PM
 
Location: AZ
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Some people enjoy the relatively constant sunshine, dry air [eg: no humidity, few mosquitos], warm air [eg: mild and short winters and actual springs], mountains, lack of snow/freezing weather, sunrises/sunsets of the southwest though, or as you describe it a "another crappy southwest dustbowl".

Chicago or other midwestern cities are great cities for many. That's great. It also is April 6, and Chicago will barely get out of the 30s today, and this cold has been in place for quite awhile including snow showers. The same is in-line for the foreseeable immediate future.

Some people just enjoy the desert and the escape from areas that have thick, gray clouds so often in the winter, summers with high humidity and mosquitos, springs that don't truly start (eg: not just a few nice days here and there) until late April at best, etc.

If you happen to love the Midwest or Chicago, great. But there is quite a bit more to Vegas or other Southwestern cities than as you've described.
Very true were in a unseasonable cold spell, but no "snow showers". Sunny as can be the last few days. We all have opinions on what we like and dont, but Las Vegas is hardly a town that invokes images of power brokers, stock exchanges, heavy-hitting law firms and architectural firms, etc. Its a weekend getaway gambling town, and w/o the casinos (the point I was trying to make), its on the same playing field as Albuquerque. Not a bad thing, but Im just trying to make a point. I dont see how a town based almost entirely on gaming is going to become a "power player". Just doesnt seem feasible.
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Old 04-07-2007, 09:18 AM
 
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http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll...ETRO/704050374

People are flocking south like never before...it wont stop. Sad thing is my home (Detroit) wont EVER recover.
I wouldn't ever count out a metro area. Who would have thought back in the 70s New York would recover the way it has? Chicago, too, has certainly made a nice comeback in that time, though it continues to lose population (the city, not the metro area). Population trends like these are decades-long events so never say never just to be safe.
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Old 04-07-2007, 03:31 PM
 
Location: Toledo
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Columbus OH seems to be doing well for itself. At least in comparison to other midwest cities.
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Old 06-01-2007, 03:46 PM
 
Location: Baton Rouge
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Austin, Texas is doing pretty good for iself as well.
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Old 06-01-2007, 04:18 PM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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Houston should be tops on the list. Most jobs created. Second to only NYC in HQ's for Fortune 500. Vibrant arts and culture. World class universities. Nasa, Energy, Bio Tech, growing tech community. Third largest city in the country.
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Old 06-01-2007, 04:44 PM
 
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Dallas area has passed Houston in the number of Fortune 500 companies and population.
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Old 06-01-2007, 04:57 PM
 
Location: from houstoner to bostoner to new yorker;)
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Dallas vs. Houston... IN A BATTLE TO THE DEATH!

You guys are hilarious!
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Old 06-01-2007, 05:08 PM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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Why not simply nominate Dallas, than compare it to Houston? BTW, oyur stats about city population and Fortune 500 compaies are incorrect. Houston has more of each
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Old 06-01-2007, 05:10 PM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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Cities
Cities with five or more FORTUNE 500 headquarters.
City State Number of FORTUNE 500 companies
New York New York 44
Houston Texas 23
Atlanta Georgia 14
Dallas Texas 11
Chicago Illinois 10
Charlotte North Carolina 7
Cincinnati Ohio 7
Minneapolis Minnesota 7
Philadelphia Pennsylvania 7
Richmond Virginia 7
St. Louis Missouri 7
Milwaukee Wisconsin 6
Pittsburgh Pennsylvania 6
San Francisco California 6
Cleveland Ohio 5
Columbus Ohio 5
Denver Colorado 5
Omaha Nebraska 5
San Antonio Texas 5
Seattle Washington 5

From the April 17th, 2006 issue
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Old 06-01-2007, 05:12 PM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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And population:

Rank City State Population
1 New York Citya[›] New York &&&&&&&&08213839.&&&&008,213,839
2 Los Angeles California &&&&&&&&03844829.&&&&003,844,829
3 Chicago Illinois &&&&&&&&02842518.&&&&002,842,518
4 Houstona[›] Texas &&&&&&&&02076189.&&&&002,076,189
5 Philadelphia Pennsylvania &&&&&&&&01463281.&&&&001,463,281
6 Phoenix Arizona &&&&&&&&01461575.&&&&001,461,575
7 San Antonio Texas &&&&&&&&01256509.&&&&001,256,509
8 San Diego California &&&&&&&&01255540.&&&&001,255,540
9 Dallas Texas &&&&&&&&01213825.&&&&001,213,825
10 San Jose California &&&&&&&&&0912332.&&&&00912,332
11 Detroit Michigan &&&&&&&&&0886671.&&&&00886,671
12 Indianapolis Indiana &&&&&&&&&0784118.&&&&00784,118
13 Jacksonville Florida &&&&&&&&&0782623.&&&&00782,623
14 San Francisco California &&&&&&&&&0739426.&&&&00739,426
15 Columbus Ohio &&&&&&&&&0730657.&&&&00730,657
16 Austin Texas &&&&&&&&&0690252.&&&&00690,252
17 Memphis Tennessee &&&&&&&&&0672277.&&&&00672,277
18 Baltimorea[›] Maryland &&&&&&&&&0640064.&&&&00640,064
19 Fort Worth Texas &&&&&&&&&0624067.&&&&00624,067
20 Charlotte North Carolina &&&&&&&&&0610949.&&&&00610,949
21 Nashvillea[›]b[›] Tennessee &&&&&&&&&0607413.&&&&00607,413
22 El Paso Texas &&&&&&&&&0598590.&&&&00598,590
23 Bostona[›] Massachusetts &&&&&&&&&0596638.&&&&00596,638
24 Washingtona[›] District of Columbia &&&&&&&&&0582049.&&&&00582,049
25 Milwaukee Wisconsin &&&&&&&&&0578887.&&&&00578,887
26 Seattle Washington &&&&&&&&&0573911.&&&&00573,911
27 Denver Colorado &&&&&&&&&0557917.&&&&00557,917
28 Louisville Kentucky &&&&&&&&&0556429.&&&&00556,429
29 Las Vegas Nevada &&&&&&&&&0545147.&&&&00545,147
30 Portland Oregon &&&&&&&&&0533427.&&&&00533,427
31 Oklahoma City Oklahoma &&&&&&&&&0531324.&&&&00531,324
32 Tucson Arizona &&&&&&&&&0515526.&&&&00515,526
33 Albuquerque New Mexico &&&&&&&&&0494236.&&&&00494,236
34 Atlantaa[›] Georgia &&&&&&&&&0483108.&&&&00483,108
35 Long Beach California &&&&&&&&&0474014.&&&&00474,014
36 Fresno California &&&&&&&&&0461116.&&&&00461,116
37 Sacramento California &&&&&&&&&0456441.&&&&00456,441
38 New Orleansc[›] Louisiana &&&&&&&&&0454863.&&&&00454,863
39 Cleveland Ohio &&&&&&&&&0452208.&&&&00452,208
40 Kansas City Missouri &&&&&&&&&0444965.&&&&00444,965
41 Mesa Arizona &&&&&&&&&0442780.&&&&00442,780
42 Virginia Beach Virginia &&&&&&&&&0438415.&&&&00438,415
43 Omaha Nebraska &&&&&&&&&0414521.&&&&00414,521
44 Oakland California &&&&&&&&&0395274.&&&&00395,274
45 Miami Florida &&&&&&&&&0386417.&&&&00386,417
46 Tulsa Oklahoma &&&&&&&&&0382457.&&&&00382,457
47 Honolulud[›] Hawaii &&&&&&&&&0377379.&&&&00377,379
48 Minneapolis Minnesota &&&&&&&&&0372811.&&&&00372,811
49 Colorado Springs Colorado &&&&&&&&&0369815.&&&&00369,815
50 Arlington Texas &&&&&&&&&0362805.&&&&00362,805
51 Wichita Kansas &&&&&&&&&0354865.&&&&00354,865
52 St. Louisa[›] Missouri &&&&&&&&&0352572.&&&&00352,572
53 Raleigh North Carolina &&&&&&&&&0341530.&&&&00341,530
54 Santa Ana California &&&&&&&&&0340368.&&&&00340,368
55 Anaheim California &&&&&&&&&0331804.&&&&00331,804
56 Cincinnatia[›] Ohio &&&&&&&&&0331310.&&&&00331,310
57 Tampa Florida &&&&&&&&&0325989.&&&&00325,989
58 Pittsburgh Pennsylvania &&&&&&&&&0316718.&&&&00316,718
59 Toledo Ohio &&&&&&&&&0301285.&&&&00301,285
60 Aurora Colorado &&&&&&&&&0297235.&&&&00297,235
61 Bakersfield California &&&&&&&&&0295536.&&&&00295,536
62 Riverside California &&&&&&&&&0290086.&&&&00290,086
63 Stockton California &&&&&&&&&0286926.&&&&00286,926
64 Corpus Christi Texas &&&&&&&&&0283474.&&&&00283,474
65 Newark New Jersey &&&&&&&&&0280666.&&&&00280,666
66 Buffalo New York &&&&&&&&&0279745.&&&&00279,745
67 St. Paul Minnesota &&&&&&&&&0275150.&&&&00275,150
68 Anchorage Alaska &&&&&&&&&0275043.&&&&00275,043
69 Lexington Kentucky &&&&&&&&&0268080.&&&&00268,080
70 Plano Texas &&&&&&&&&0250096.&&&&00250,096
71 St. Petersburg Florida &&&&&&&&&0249079.&&&&00249,079
72 Jersey City New Jersey &&&&&&&&&0239614.&&&&00239,614
73 Glendale Arizona &&&&&&&&&0239435.&&&&00239,435
74 Lincoln Nebraska &&&&&&&&&0239213.&&&&00239,213
75 Chandler Arizona &&&&&&&&&0234939.&&&&00234,939
76 Henderson Nevada &&&&&&&&&0232146.&&&&00232,146
77 Greensboro North Carolina &&&&&&&&&0231962.&&&&00231,962
78 Norfolk Virginia &&&&&&&&&0231954.&&&&00231,954
79 Birmingham Alabama &&&&&&&&&0231483.&&&&00231,483
80 Scottsdale Arizona &&&&&&&&&0226013.&&&&00226,013
81 Fort Wayne Indiana &&&&&&&&&0223341.&&&&00223,341
82 Baton Rougee[›] Louisiana &&&&&&&&&0222064.&&&&00222,064
83 Madison Wisconsin &&&&&&&&&0221551.&&&&00221,551
84 Hialeah Florida &&&&&&&&&0220485.&&&&00220,485
85 Chesapeake Virginia &&&&&&&&&0218968.&&&&00218,968
86 Garland Texas &&&&&&&&&0216346.&&&&00216,346
87 Orlando Florida &&&&&&&&&0213223.&&&&00213,223
88 Rochester New York &&&&&&&&&0211091.&&&&00211,091
89 Akron Ohio &&&&&&&&&0210795.&&&&00210,795
90 Chula Vista California &&&&&&&&&0210497.&&&&00210,497
91 Lubbock Texas &&&&&&&&&0209737.&&&&00209,737
92 Laredo Texas &&&&&&&&&0208754.&&&&00208,754
93 Modesto California &&&&&&&&&0207011.&&&&00207,011
94 Durham North Carolina &&&&&&&&&0204845.&&&&00204,845
95 Reno Nevada &&&&&&&&&0203550.&&&&00203,550
96 Fremont California &&&&&&&&&0200468.&&&&00200,468
97 Montgomery Alabama &&&&&&&&&0200127.&&&&00200,127
98 Glendale California &&&&&&&&&0200065.&&&&00200,065
99 Arlingtonf[›] Virginia &&&&&&&&&0199761.&&&&00199,761a[›]
100 Shreveport Louisiana &&&&&&&&&0198874.&&&&00198,874
101 San Bernardino California &&&&&&&&&0198550.&&&&00198,550
102 Spokane Washington &&&&&&&&&0196818.&&&&00196,818
103 Yonkers New York &&&&&&&&&0196425.&&&&00196,425
104 Tacoma Washington &&&&&&&&&0195898.&&&&00195,898
105 Huntington Beach California &&&&&&&&&0194457.&&&&00194,457
106 Des Moines Iowa &&&&&&&&&0194163.&&&&00194,163
107 Grand Rapids Michigan &&&&&&&&&0193780.&&&&00193,780
108 Richmond Virginia &&&&&&&&&0193777.&&&&00193,777
109 Winston-Salem North Carolina &&&&&&&&&0193755.&&&&00193,755
110 Irving Texas &&&&&&&&&0193649.&&&&00193,649
111 Boise Idaho &&&&&&&&&0193161.&&&&00193,161
112 Mobile Alabama &&&&&&&&&0191544.&&&&00191,544
113 Augusta-Richmond County (balance)* Georgia &&&&&&&&&0190782.&&&&00190,782
114 Irvine California &&&&&&&&&0186852.&&&&00186,852
115 Columbus Georgia &&&&&&&&&0185271.&&&&00185,271
116 Little Rock Arkansas &&&&&&&&&0184564.&&&&00184,564
117 Oxnard California &&&&&&&&&0183628.&&&&00183,628
118 Amarillo Texas &&&&&&&&&0183021.&&&&00183,021
119 Knoxville Tennessee &&&&&&&&&0180130.&&&&00180,130
120 Newport News Virginia &&&&&&&&&0179899.&&&&00179,899
121 Moreno Valley California &&&&&&&&&0178367.&&&&00178,367
122 Salt Lake City Utah &&&&&&&&&0178097.&&&&00178,097
123 Jackson Mississippi &&&&&&&&&0177977.&&&&00177,977
124 Providence Rhode Island &&&&&&&&&0176862.&&&&00176,862
125 North Las Vegas Nevada &&&&&&&&&0176635.&&&&00176,635
126 Gilbert Arizona &&&&&&&&&0173989.&&&&00173,989
127 Ontario California &&&&&&&&&0172679.&&&&00172,679
128 Worcester Massachusetts &&&&&&&&&0172648.&&&&00172,648
129 Rancho Cucamonga California &&&&&&&&&0169353.&&&&00169,353
130 Santa Clarita California &&&&&&&&&0168253.&&&&00168,253
131 Aurora Illinois &&&&&&&&&0168181.&&&&00168,181
132 Brownsville Texas &&&&&&&&&0167493.&&&&00167,493
133 Fort Lauderdale Florida &&&&&&&&&0167380.&&&&00167,380
134 Huntsville Alabama &&&&&&&&&0166313.&&&&00166,313
135 Oceanside California &&&&&&&&&0166108.&&&&00166,108
136 Garden Grove California &&&&&&&&&0166075.&&&&00166,075
137 Overland Park Kansas &&&&&&&&&0164811.&&&&00164,811
138 Fontana California &&&&&&&&&0163860.&&&&00163,860
139 Tempe Arizona &&&&&&&&&0161143.&&&&00161,143
140 Dayton Ohio &&&&&&&&&0158873.&&&&00158,873
141 Tallahassee Florida &&&&&&&&&0158500.&&&&00158,500
142 Vancouver Washington &&&&&&&&&0157493.&&&&00157,493
143 Chattanooga Tennessee &&&&&&&&&0154762.&&&&00154,762
144 Pomona California &&&&&&&&&0153787.&&&&00153,787
145 Santa Rosa California &&&&&&&&&0153158.&&&&00153,158
146 Rockford Illinois &&&&&&&&&0152916.&&&&00152,916
147 Springfield Massachusetts &&&&&&&&&0151732.&&&&00151,732
148 Pembroke Pines Florida &&&&&&&&&0150380.&&&&00150,380
149 Springfield Missouri &&&&&&&&&0150298.&&&&00150,298
150 Paterson New Jersey &&&&&&&&&0149843.&&&&00149,843
151 Corona California &&&&&&&&&0149387.&&&&00149,387
152 Salem Oregon &&&&&&&&&0148751.&&&&00148,751
153 Salinas California &&&&&&&&&0146431.&&&&00146,431
154 Hollywood Florida &&&&&&&&&0145629.&&&&00145,629
155 Hampton Virginia &&&&&&&&&0145579.&&&&00145,579
156 Eugene Oregon &&&&&&&&&0144515.&&&&00144,515
157 Grand Prairie Texas &&&&&&&&&0144337.&&&&00144,337
158 Kansas City Kansas &&&&&&&&&0144210.&&&&00144,210
159 Pasadena Texas &&&&&&&&&0143852.&&&&00143,852
160 Pasadena California &&&&&&&&&0143731.&&&&00143,731
161 Torrance California &&&&&&&&&0142384.&&&&00142,384
162 Syracuse New York &&&&&&&&&0141683.&&&&00141,683
163 Naperville Illinois &&&&&&&&&0141579.&&&&00141,579
164 Lakewood Colorado &&&&&&&&&0140671.&&&&00140,671
165 Hayward California &&&&&&&&&0140293.&&&&00140,293
166 Cape Coral Florida &&&&&&&&&0140010.&&&&00140,010
167 Sioux Falls South Dakota &&&&&&&&&0139517.&&&&00139,517
168 Bridgeport Connecticut &&&&&&&&&0139008.&&&&00139,008
169 Peoria Arizona &&&&&&&&&0138200.&&&&00138,200
170 Alexandriaa[›] Virginia &&&&&&&&&0137602.&&&&00137,602
171 Joliet Illinois &&&&&&&&&0136208.&&&&00136,208
172 Warren Michigan &&&&&&&&&0135311.&&&&00135,311
173 Orange California &&&&&&&&&0134950.&&&&00134,950
174 Palmdale California &&&&&&&&&0134570.&&&&00134,570
175 Escondido California &&&&&&&&&0134085.&&&&00134,085
176 Lancaster California &&&&&&&&&0134032.&&&&00134,032
177 Fullerton California &&&&&&&&&0132787.&&&&00132,787
178 Port St. Lucie Florida &&&&&&&&&0131692.&&&&00131,692
179 Fayetteville North Carolina &&&&&&&&&0129928.&&&&00129,928
180 Mesquite Texas &&&&&&&&&0129902.&&&&00129,902
181 Sunnyvale California &&&&&&&&&0128902.&&&&00128,902
182 Coral Springs Florida &&&&&&&&&0128804.&&&&00128,804
183 Savannah Georgia &&&&&&&&&0128453.&&&&00128,453
184 Sterling Heights Michigan &&&&&&&&&0128034.&&&&00128,034
185 Fort Collins Colorado &&&&&&&&&0128026.&&&&00128,026
186 Elizabeth New Jersey &&&&&&&&&0125809.&&&&00125,809
187 New Haven Connecticut &&&&&&&&&0124791.&&&&00124,791
188 Hartford Connecticut &&&&&&&&&0124397.&&&&00124,397
189 Thousand Oaks California &&&&&&&&&0124359.&&&&00124,359
190 McAllen Texas &&&&&&&&&0123622.&&&&00123,622
191 Concord California &&&&&&&&&0123252.&&&&00123,252
192 Cedar Rapids Iowa &&&&&&&&&0123119.&&&&00123,119
193 El Monte California &&&&&&&&&0122513.&&&&00122,513
194 Topeka Kansas &&&&&&&&&0121946.&&&&00121,946
195 Waco Texas &&&&&&&&&0120465.&&&&00120,465
196 Stamford Connecticut &&&&&&&&&0120045.&&&&00120,045
197 West Valley Citya[›] Utah &&&&&&&&&0118917.&&&&00118,917
198 Carrollton Texas &&&&&&&&&0118870.&&&&00118,870
199 Simi Valley California &&&&&&&&&0118687.&&&&00118,687
200 Flint Michigan &&&&&&&&&0118551.&&&&00118,551
201 Vallejo California &&&&&&&&&0117483.&&&&00117,483
202 Bellevue Washington &&&&&&&&&0117137.&&&&00117,137
203 Columbia South Carolina &&&&&&&&&0117088.&&&&00117,088
204 Evansville Indiana &&&&&&&&&0115918.&&&&00115,918
205 Springfield Illinois &&&&&&&&&0115668.&&&&00115,668
206 Lansing Michigan &&&&&&&&&0115518.&&&&00115,518
207 Provoa[›] Utah &&&&&&&&&0115135.&&&&00115,135
208 Abilene Texas &&&&&&&&&0114757.&&&&00114,757
209 Inglewood California &&&&&&&&&0114467.&&&&00114,467
210 Ann Arbor Michigan &&&&&&&&&0113271.&&&&00113,271
211 Clarksville Tennessee &&&&&&&&&0112878.&&&&00112,878
212 Peoria Illinois &&&&&&&&&0112685.&&&&00112,685
213 Elk Grove California &&&&&&&&&0112338.&&&&00112,338
214 Lafayette Louisiana &&&&&&&&&0112030.&&&&00112,030
215 Beaumont Texas &&&&&&&&&0111799.&&&&00111,799
216 Olathe Kansas &&&&&&&&&0111334.&&&&00111,334
217 Independence Missouri &&&&&&&&&0110208.&&&&00110,208
218 Costa Mesa California &&&&&&&&&0109830.&&&&00109,830
219 Downey California &&&&&&&&&0109718.&&&&00109,718
220 Manchester New Hampshire &&&&&&&&&0109691.&&&&00109,691
221 Clearwater Florida &&&&&&&&&0108687.&&&&00108,687
222 Visalia California &&&&&&&&&0108669.&&&&00108,669
223 West Covina California &&&&&&&&&0108185.&&&&00108,185
224 Gainesville Florida &&&&&&&&&0108184.&&&&00108,184
225 Waterbury Connecticut &&&&&&&&&0107902.&&&&00107,902
226 Allentown Pennsylvania &&&&&&&&&0106992.&&&&00106,992
227 Charleston South Carolina &&&&&&&&&0106712.&&&&00106,712
228 Miramar Florida &&&&&&&&&0106623.&&&&00106,623
229 Cary North Carolina &&&&&&&&&0106439.&&&&00106,439
230 Roseville California &&&&&&&&&0105940.&&&&00105,940
231 Norwalk California &&&&&&&&&0105834.&&&&00105,834
232 Santa Clara California &&&&&&&&&0105402.&&&&00105,402
233 South Bend Indiana &&&&&&&&&0105262.&&&&00105,262
234 Thornton Colorado &&&&&&&&&0105182.&&&&00105,182
235 Westminster Colorado &&&&&&&&&0105084.&&&&00105,084
236 Fairfield California &&&&&&&&&0104476.&&&&00104,476
237 Pompano Beach Florida &&&&&&&&&0104179.&&&&00104,179
238 Denton Texas &&&&&&&&&0104153.&&&&00104,153
239 Burbank California &&&&&&&&&0104108.&&&&00104,108
240 San Buenaventura California &&&&&&&&&0104017.&&&&00104,017
241 Arvada Colorado &&&&&&&&&0103966.&&&&00103,966
242 Pueblo Colorado &&&&&&&&&0103495.&&&&00103,495
243 Athens Georgia &&&&&&&&&0103238.&&&&00103,238
244 Lowell Massachusetts &&&&&&&&&0103111.&&&&00103,111
245 Erie Pennsylvania &&&&&&&&&0102612.&&&&00102,612
246 Richmond California &&&&&&&&&0102186.&&&&00102,186
247 Norman Oklahoma &&&&&&&&&0101719.&&&&00101,719
248 Green Bay Wisconsin &&&&&&&&&0101203.&&&&00101,203
249 Berkeley California &&&&&&&&&0100744.&&&&00100,744
250 Antioch California &&&&&&&&&0100631.&&&&00100,631
251 Daly City California &&&&&&&&&0100339.&&&&00100,339
252 Killeen Texas &&&&&&&&&0100233.&&&&00100,233
253 Portsmouth Virginia &&&&&&&&&0100169.&&&&00100,169
254 Cambridge Massachusetts &&&&&&&&&0100135.&&&&00100,135
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