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Old 04-10-2009, 12:31 PM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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It seems most people that are only a portion indian are cherokee or other southern tribes. at least from these responses. any specific hypthosises as to why?
My guess is that it's related to European settlement patterns. When people moved to the Northeast, they did so initially for religious freedoms. When people moved to the South, they did so for social mobility and work. Entire families moved to the Northeast while mostly individuals, almost exclusively men, moved to the South, an area full of Cherokees. The Cherokee were a large nation in the South, occupying most of the Carolinas and Georgia, along with portions of Kentucky, Tennessee and Alabama. Well, those men who transplanted to the South got bored and lonely after their long days plowing the fields, and there was a huge supply of rapeable and/or marriageable women on the other side of the forest...
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Old 04-11-2009, 12:50 PM
 
Location: USA
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It was never a stigma in my house- I'm 1/8th Cherokee. My Paternal grandmother was 1/2 Cherokee- she looked very Cherokee. There's probably some Lumbee in there, to. Unfortuantely I look like a typical American of Irish descent, while my Dad is lean and olive skinned. I feel cheated.
I hear ya. With sandy brown hair and (argh) green eyes(that's dark green like olives), I don't fit the Indian look either. Oh well.LOL
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Old 04-11-2009, 04:43 PM
 
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My guess is that it's related to European settlement patterns. When people moved to the Northeast, they did so initially for religious freedoms. When people moved to the South, they did so for social mobility and work. Entire families moved to the Northeast while mostly individuals, almost exclusively men, moved to the South, an area full of Cherokees. The Cherokee were a large nation in the South, occupying most of the Carolinas and Georgia, along with portions of Kentucky, Tennessee and Alabama. Well, those men who transplanted to the South got bored and lonely after their long days plowing the fields, and there was a huge supply of rapeable and/or marriageable women on the other side of the forest...
Also keep in mind that there were many Irish indentured servants in the South and it seems like there are quite a few people that are both in the South. So, that could be why as well.

I'm also surprised that people don't think about why many Black people have Irish surnames in the US too. I think that is a big reason why. Actually, I believe the first child of an interracial relationship in the US was between a Black male and an Irish female that was an indentured servant with the surname of Butler and it occurred in Virginia.Here's an example of what I'm talking about as well:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Augustine_Healy

and another example:http://books.google.com/books?id=Sco...esult&resnum=1

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Old 04-11-2009, 04:50 PM
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My guess is that it's related to European settlement patterns. When people moved to the Northeast, they did so initially for religious freedoms. When people moved to the South, they did so for social mobility and work. Entire families moved to the Northeast while mostly individuals, almost exclusively men, moved to the South, an area full of Cherokees. The Cherokee were a large nation in the South, occupying most of the Carolinas and Georgia, along with portions of Kentucky, Tennessee and Alabama. Well, those men who transplanted to the South got bored and lonely after their long days plowing the fields, and there was a huge supply of rapeable and/or marriageable women on the other side of the forest...
That sounds very possible. The reason for me having Choctaw in my blood could have to do with the fact that some of the slaves who managed to escaped hid out with the Native Americans in some cases. In other cases, some Native Americans kept slaves. Either way, I still have Choctaw in me.
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Old 07-18-2011, 02:26 AM
 
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1/64th Narragansett, we were one of the first to interact with Whites, we totally intermarried and got absorbed.
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Old 07-19-2011, 08:23 PM
 
Location: Coastal New Jersey
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None whatsoever.
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Old 07-21-2011, 06:13 AM
 
Location: 30-40N 90-100W
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I didn't think I had any, but I've heard from the family genealogist that I have very distant American Indian ancestry.

One thing on Cherokee I think there is or was some tendency to name an Indian ancestor as "Cherokee" when the person didn't really know for sure. Cherokees were one of the "civilized tribes" that developed a written language and such. Although what might matter more is they were one of the larger tribes and were a better known name than many. Also I think some tribes were placed within the Cherokee for one reason or other. Looking it up the Delaware and Shawnee of Oklahoma were, for a time, within the Cherokee Nation before regaining a separate status. The Natchez were largely submerged into the Cherokee by the looks of it.
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Old 07-21-2011, 09:57 AM
 
Location: The Springs
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Great grandmother on my Father's side was 100% Louisiana Caddo.
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Old 07-21-2011, 12:04 PM
 
Location: Chicago metro
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I heard stories from my grandfather but I'm not 100% convince. A lot of Black-Americans claim to have a cherokee or blackfoot great grandmother but a lot of times it is shown to be false. I read somewhere that only like 5%(or was it a little bit more or less?) of Black Americans have at least 12.5%(1/8th) Native American ancestry or more. I have a hairy body(stomach, chest, and even some on my back and shoulders). So if anything, there is a higher possibility that my non African ancestry is mostly European.
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Old 07-21-2011, 02:13 PM
 
Location: Denver
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I have Cherokee in me. As do many people in South La.
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