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Old 03-30-2007, 09:44 PM
 
Location: Wi for the summer--Vegas in the winter
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As a former Milwaukeean, I disagree that Milwaukee is a lost cause. It does indeed have problems, the worst being the increasing violent crime. Alot of the city however, has "Re-Invented" itself or is in the process of doing so. What will "Turn Milwaukee around is stronger leadership within the confines of city hall and a revamped police department. Milwaukee has a proud past and still a lot going for it. Sadly, local leadership has acknowldged many of the cities shortcommings, but has failed to make an attempt to correct them. I have also seen Detroit. It's pretty sad for the most part. But Milwaukee is NO Detroit. Not by a long shot. As far as L.A. is concerned, It's about as close to a "Free For All", as is currently possible. Alot of that crap is starting to become prevalant in Vegas here as well. New Orleans always has been rather "Raw", and now after Katrina and the Bush administrations Pathetic efforts there, hope is fleeting.
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Old 03-30-2007, 10:46 PM
 
Location: Heartland Florida
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I vote for Miami. It has to be the worst city in the whole United States, Low wages, high priced real estate, rude and selfish people, and illegals floating in daily. Miami is going to be third world and then leveled by a major hurricane. A bad future indeed.
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Old 03-30-2007, 11:05 PM
 
Location: Tampa Bay
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I think the only lost cause cities are cities that grow to big to maintain themselves. The slightest downturns could cause massive negative chain reactions. Thats why im for urban sprawl and smaller, eco friendly self sufficient cities. I think the perfect sized cities are from 100k-500k-1mill people.
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Old 03-30-2007, 11:30 PM
 
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Detroit is lost, forever. So is Newark.

New Orleans was more or less alive, but the blow has been too great. It's probably too late to save the city.

Smaller cities like Gary (Indiana) and Camden (New Jersey) are dead too. But who cares about them anyway?

Milwaukee, Baltimore, Philadelphia, Cleveland and Pittsburgh all seem to teeter on the edge, but their strong half will pull them up. They've got enough universities, hospitals, museums, services and general growth to avoid death. They're here to stay.

St Louis is in danger, I would say. It keeps bleeding. But it's close enough to the group of never-dying cities mentioned before as to have sufficient hope.

I don't think Los Angeles needs "extensive improvement" to be saved from danger. Yes, LA it's one big ghetto with the flashy presence of Hollywood. But there's enough stuff going on there to keep it going. They've gone through the worst (race riots, bad crime), I think, and they can only get better.

Social decay? Geez, America as a whole is socially decaying! Segregation, injustice, income gap, credit debt, mortgage crisis, end of the middle class... But our problems are not exclusive of the cities. They are visible everywhere.

Last but not least, let us not forget that our cities have been dying for fifty (50) years now and the polls are all over as to which one will die first. It's an open process.
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Old 03-31-2007, 07:01 PM
 
Location: Alabama!
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Birmingham? Which Birmingham?
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Old 04-01-2007, 01:17 AM
 
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Pittsburgh, Baltimore, Cincy...Although those cities are losing population and contain some not so nice areas, those cities will not totally die because they have universities, hospitals, and museums to substain what they already have.

I do not know much about St. Louis, as I only passed through there, but that has got to be the dirtiest and trashiest city I've ever been through. Just from the looks of it, it looks like a lost cause. Detriot is pretty bad too, but it doesn't seem as destitute as St. Louis.
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Old 04-01-2007, 06:40 AM
 
Location: NEW JERSEY
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Camden and Trenton in no way belong lumped together.

Camden is just flat out dangerous on every corner and everyone is destitute.

Trenton, all though, MOST sections are that not desierable to live in...the city houses some of the states best paying government jobs. The water front has a nice minor leauge ball park and famous night club which bring in tons of money and are filled with upper and middle class familes on a sunday afternoon. And the Chambersburg (italian section) has lots of great places to eat which also get packed on weekends by high caliber people.

Camden is the kind of place that if you're a a little suburban person rolling through you pretty much have a death wish, Trenton on the other hand is a daily commute spot for tons of people and safe as long as you know what sections to avoid.
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Old 04-01-2007, 07:22 AM
 
Location: Villanova Pa.
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Camden and Trenton in no way belong lumped together.

Camden is just flat out dangerous on every corner and everyone is destitute.

Camden is the kind of place that if you're a a little suburban person rolling through you pretty much have a death wish, Trenton on the other hand is a daily commute spot for tons of people and safe as long as you know what sections to avoid.
In Camdens defense they have a branch campus of Rutgers University,Campbells Soup HQ, Camden Aquarium,Tweeter Amphitheater,Independent League baseball stadium. They've done a fairly nice job with their waterfront. Agreed that the neighborhoods are an abomination, otherworldly.
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Old 04-01-2007, 09:02 AM
 
Location: Deep In The Heat Of Texas
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I'm guessing the poster meant Birmingham, Alabama becoming destituTe.
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Old 04-01-2007, 01:09 PM
 
Location: Missouri
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Camden and Trenton are not at enormous risk of becoming destitute IMO. New Jersey in general and the PA areas bordering these two small cities is expensive and we are running out of space. Crime and poverty certainly exist in Camden and Trenton but there is a slow, steady push to improve these areas. Boarded up buildings are being renovated into new homes and there is no problem selling them. This area is commutable to NYC, Philly, Baltimore, and large towns with ample job opportunity. I think as long as the cost of living in NJ is so high, there is a good chance Camden and Trenton (especially Trenton) could significantly improve.
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