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Old 04-17-2009, 09:47 AM
 
Location: roaming gnome
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Sounds like Denver/Boulder would be a good fit. I'd also say portland/eugene (but you said not too hippie...)

SF is probably too big and too hippy for you...if you can get over that (very easy to do) the bay area would be great... You can always drive to the mountains (Which you would have to do in denver also) And of course, you don't have to live IN SF proper...

you sound a lot like me, I'm also 28, and that is where I'm about to move to, loved it out there... I'm also not into the in your face hippy stuff, but really it isn't a problem

SF is probably best of both worlds, cosmopolitan MAJOR city ... think more Chicago than Indy though.. in a scenic outdoor environment, best of all you can enjoy it year round and it DOES get cold...(into the 20s) and hot (over 100) in the region, and you get the best produce in the U.S. as well...

Trust me, there is a reason so many people live in the Bay area and it is not because they are hippies or homosexual

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Old 04-17-2009, 10:02 AM
 
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Sounds like Denver/Boulder would be a good fit. I'd also say portland/eugene (but you said not too hippie...)

SF is probably too big and too hippy for you...if you can get over that (very easy to do) the bay area would be great... You can always drive to the mountains (Which you would have to do in denver also) And of course, you don't have to live IN SF proper...

you sound a lot like me, and that is where I'm about to move to, loved it out there... I'm also not into the in your face hippy stuff, but really it isn't a problem

SF is probably best of both worlds, cosmopolitan MAJOR city ... think more Chicago than Indy though.. in a scenic outdoor environment, best of all you can enjoy it year round and it DOES get cold...(into the 20s)

Trust me, there is a reason so many people live in the Bay area and it is not because they are hippies...
Actually the reason I included the hippie comment is because of Portland, lol. Everything on the surface of Portland makes me want to move there. Its a large metropolitan area that is scenic and beautiful. Its surrounded by hills. Its got a decent climate. Its a foodie haven. Good wine. Good public transportation, even outside of the city. Its progressive. Everything I listed bascially. But we spent 5 days there in October of 2007 on vacation/see if we would like to move there. And it was a great city, but there was just something off about it for me. It was too stuck in 90's grunge. Very hippie and a little odd. Its likely that its just different than the midwest, so I was a little surprised. And its also what some many people probably love aboit it. But it soured me somewhat on the area. Since then I have yet to even find a place that on the surface seems perfect for me.
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Old 04-17-2009, 10:03 AM
 
Location: roaming gnome
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lets do a SF check off... b/c I went through a lot you did
-Progressive city/state, but not too hippie (SF check but ...pushing it in some parts for sure, most of the hippy stuff went north...I'd say portland is significantly more hippy)
-Access to lots of outdoor activities/nature (up there with best in the country)
-We love mountains. Hills are good too. Especially love the mountains out west (quick drive)
-Temperate climate is fine. I dislike heat and humidity more than cold and snow. But I don't want to live anywhere that can snow as late as June and as early as Sept. Thats too short of a season. Having 4 seasons is fine. I don't need L.A. weather. (no humidity at all, only gets hot and cold inland)
-I like having a small garden, but also try hard to buy local produce and meat. I really try to adhere to the 100 mile diet as much as possible. So somewhere with a good local/farmer's market scene (best place in the United States for this)
-Obviously, close to parks, but also within a 1-2 hours drive of good hiking. Close to hiking in mountains would be a nice bonus. (much less than an hour to get to it)
-Housing cost around $350K or less on average (doable, especially outside the city)
-Closer to medical facilities, I am a hospital Pharmacist (tons of them)
-Close to an international airport, we love to travel (2 of them)

Look at cities in North bay...

have you been there? If not I think you owe it a visit, it is not like the media portrays it...
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Old 04-17-2009, 10:06 AM
 
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lets do a SF check off... b/c I went through a lot you did
-Progressive city/state, but not too hippie (SF check but ...pushing it in some parts for sure, most of the hippy stuff went north...I'd say portland is significantly more hippy)
-Access to lots of outdoor activities/nature (up there with best in the country)
-We love mountains. Hills are good too. Especially love the mountains out west (quick drive)
-Temperate climate is fine. I dislike heat and humidity more than cold and snow. But I don't want to live anywhere that can snow as late as June and as early as Sept. Thats too short of a season. Having 4 seasons is fine. I don't need L.A. weather. (no humidity at all, only gets hot and cold inland)
-I like having a small garden, but also try hard to buy local produce and meat. I really try to adhere to the 100 mile diet as much as possible. So somewhere with a good local/farmer's market scene (best place in the United States for this)
-Obviously, close to parks, but also within a 1-2 hours drive of good hiking. Close to hiking in mountains would be a nice bonus. (much less than an hour to get to it)
-Housing cost around $350K or less on average (doable, especially outside the city)
-Closer to medical facilities, I am a hospital Pharmacist (tons of them)
-Close to an international airport, we love to travel (2 of them)

Look at cities in North bay...
I would love to move to SF, or even California in general. It always just seemed to expensive. Any specifics areas outside of SF that are "relatively" affordable. At least by California standards
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Old 04-17-2009, 10:09 AM
 
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Maybe Orange, Rockland, or Ulster county in upstate NY. Still about an hour and a half away from NYC, but not too far and beginning to get near the Catskill mountains.
Or the major cities in Upstate NY like Buffalo, Rochester, Syracuse or the Albany area.
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Old 04-17-2009, 10:13 AM
 
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Also, Ithaca, NY might be perfect except that it only has 32,000 people and no international airport right in the area. Everything else is perfect though.
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Old 04-17-2009, 11:21 AM
 
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I would love to move to SF, or even California in general. It always just seemed to expensive. Any specifics areas outside of SF that are "relatively" affordable. At least by California standards
I'd probably divert a better expert... I only lived in the area for 3 months, but going back...

I would look at these...

Santa Rosa kind of typical 150K city, clean, progressive... kind of family oriented , Petaluma, Sebastopol, Novato smaller cool cities with their own feel, definitely not run down... I'm not as familiar with the eastern side or south but know there are cool cities there too...

Check out the SF forum and ask about it... definitely love the north bay area though.

also I take it you are following the low carbon diet?

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Old 04-17-2009, 12:21 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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How close to the airport do you need to be? Santa Rosa and that area is like 60-90 minutes from the closest major intl airport. SR does have an airport with some flights in and out but its a small airport. I do agree though overall Santa Rosa and the Petaluma area good suggestions. There is some really nice nature all around that area with all the lakes, mountains (more like hills though compared to the Sierra's), forests, coastline, etc.. You're not going to find anything in Marin County for that price most likely, so I'd scratch off Novato.

Maybe also try Pleasant Hill, Dublin, and Concord, Livermore (not too sure how cheap it is now though), and Castro Valley.
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Old 04-17-2009, 12:28 PM
 
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How close to the airport do you need to be? Santa Rosa and that area is like 60-90 minutes from the closest major intl airport. SR does have an airport with some flights in and out but its a small airport. I do agree though overall Santa Rosa and the Petaluma area good suggestions. There is some really nice nature all around that area with all the lakes, mountains (more like hills though compared to the Sierra's), forests, coastline, etc.. You're not going to find anything in Marin County for that price most likely, so I'd scratch off Novato.

Maybe also try Pleasant Hill, Dublin, and Concord, Livermore (not too sure how cheap it is now though), and Castro Valley.
yeah I wasn't sure if Novato was as bad as San Rafael pricing wise, guess so. Concord is one I was looking for, had to go over there to buy something off craigslist once seemed pretty cool.

but, you can always get dropped off at public trans in those places and ride it all the way to the airport. still going to take awhile but... not a deal breaker.
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Old 04-18-2009, 01:19 PM
 
Location: Teaneck, NJ
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Rensselaer, NY

Right outside Albany, NY
Near mountains
4 seasons
You can get a good size 3 or 4 bedroom home with a big yard for 200K or even less.
Crime isn't too much of a problem
It's on a river

Sounds like you'd like it.
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