My explanation of the Midwest by map (high school, manufacturing)
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I've never thought of Oklahoma as the Midwest. I don't see why people think this. It seems very Southern to me. Missouri on the other hand seems split between the Midwest and the South.
It's not split, not nearly to the degree you might think. St. Louis, Kansas City, and the Northern half of the state lean solidly Midwestern. The rest of the state is split but the Mississippi Delta is the only region that truly leans Southern. Missouri overall is more Midwestern than it is Southern.
It's not split, not nearly to the degree you might think. St. Louis, Kansas City, and the Northern half of the state lean solidly Midwestern. The rest of the state is split but the Mississippi Delta is the only region that truly leans Southern. Missouri overall is more Midwestern than it is Southern.
I totally agree with you AJF.
And although I love the South-Central (OK, AR, TX), I will say that the time that I have spent in Missouri has been great. It is a beautiful state and is underrated in this regard IMO.
Minot ND is generally thought of as the dividing line (by North Dakotans in their own forum here) between Midwest and West. A friend of mine from Bismark (just south of Minot) moved recently and he never even considered the Minnesota/Wiscosin/Iowa area, he was totally focused on Denver & Wyoming. Another friend from Jamestown further east, his sole focus was the Twin Cities, 20 years ago, and most of his classmates also moved generally east (TC, Chicago, New York, etc).
I've never thought of Oklahoma as the Midwest. I don't see why people think this. It seems very Southern to me. Missouri on the other hand seems split between the Midwest and the South.
Oklahoma doesnt seem southern at all to me except the far SE corner. The NE corner of OK definitely feels Midwestern to me, as does parts of central OK. SW OK and the Panhandle feel different than the Midwest.
Minot ND is generally thought of as the dividing line (by North Dakotans in their own forum here) between Midwest and West. A friend of mine from Bismark (just south of Minot) moved recently and he never even considered the Minnesota/Wiscosin/Iowa area, he was totally focused on Denver & Wyoming. Another friend from Jamestown further east, his sole focus was the Twin Cities, 20 years ago, and most of his classmates also moved generally east (TC, Chicago, New York, etc).
Minot ND is generally thought of as the dividing line (by North Dakotans in their own forum here) between Midwest and West. A friend of mine from Bismark (just south of Minot) moved recently and he never even considered the Minnesota/Wiscosin/Iowa area, he was totally focused on Denver & Wyoming. Another friend from Jamestown further east, his sole focus was the Twin Cities, 20 years ago, and most of his classmates also moved generally east (TC, Chicago, New York, etc).
Interesting. So ND is about 2/3 eastern and 1/3 western?
Oklahoma doesnt seem southern at all to me except the far SE corner. The NE corner of OK definitely feels Midwestern to me, as does parts of central OK. SW OK and the Panhandle feel different than the Midwest.
OK is too far south in latitude to be in the Midwest IMO, and mostly identifies with the Plains states.
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