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Old 04-01-2007, 05:49 AM
 
Location: Lincoln, Nebraska (moving to Ohio)
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I would say this one is easy North Dakota.

They are very open about their disdain of new-comers. One would think the nation's most stagnant state population wise would be different and would welcome newcomers.

Parts of North Dakota have had a 80% population decline and the people of that state like it that way. They would rather the stores close and they have to drive an hour to the store then have some new-comers move into the tundra of the -60 wind chill north.

Honorable mention: Iowa

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Old 04-01-2007, 06:28 AM
 
Location: NEW JERSEY
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Default Are there really that many towns that dislike "outsiders"?

When ever I travel outside of my region, I usually go to main cities or touristy spots, so I guess I have never experienced this.

But ever since I have been on this board, I have noticed so many posts about people feeling outcasted out of towns. Why is this?


It's sort of hard for me to understand, one of my favorite things to do is meet new people....and I have lived in 4 different towns (all in NJ though) and I have always seen neighbors making the new kid on the block feel very welcome. I didn't realize til I started posting here, that there were towns that frowned upon people moving in. Just something I'm not used to I guess.
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Old 04-01-2007, 07:10 AM
 
Location: Long Beach, CA
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I get the impression Idaho, Oregon and Arizona.
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Old 04-01-2007, 09:04 AM
 
Location: Deep In The Heat Of Texas
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Some of the native Texans on the Texas forum are not speaking very cordially about newcomers to their areas.
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Old 04-01-2007, 12:23 PM
 
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I think where you are from has a lot to do with it. Here in Pa., where I live, they dislike NY and NJ people, but move from Florida, or Alabama, or Texas, I honestly don't think they care.
After 13 years I still haven't come up with a tactful, but not terribly rude comment to my fellow Pennsylvanians when they tell me that I'm not like most NYers, "we dont mean 'you'", when speaking bad about them or when they tell me I am one of them now. These comments are from people I know and love like family.
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Old 04-01-2007, 12:35 PM
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Location: Foot of the Rockies
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"we dont mean 'you'", when speaking bad about them or when they tell me I am one of them now. These comments are from people I know and love like family.
As an easterner (Pennsylvania), I have heard stuff like that many times in the midwest and west. My own husband once asked "what's wrong with that?" when I complained that someone in his family had said something similar to me. I replied "what about the rest of my family and everyone I grew up with?". But no, I don't have a tactful or even untactful response. DH's family seems to have gotten over it, after all these years.
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Old 04-01-2007, 12:59 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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I think oregon and washington are the worst -- especially if your from california or resemble someone they believe looks like or acts like someone from california.

many wisconsinites also have disdain for people from illinois.

I also have a hard time grasping how people can generalize and sterotype, even hate a whole group of people cause they are from another STATE....an arbitrary political boundary that separates them....does not hand them a code of conduct at birth that he/she must follow.

Anyway, I would say most rural or natural areas have people in them that will resist change and it wont matter where you are from -- if you move in they will not accept you at first.
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Old 04-01-2007, 01:24 PM
 
Location: Phoenix metro
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I get the impression Idaho, Oregon and Arizona.
Idaho and Oregon I can agree with, AZ I cannot. The reason being that probably only 10% of the state are actual natives, the rest are transplants/retirees/illegals/etc. Who are they to say they dont want newcomers? LOLOL
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Old 04-01-2007, 06:30 PM
 
Location: Helena, MT
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I would say that in Montana, most people are starting to really dislike newcomers, as it is really impacting the cost of living and culture of a few of the more popular areas. We have the most expensive home in the world being built in SW Montana at the exclusive Yellowstone Club for only $155 Million. With a real working-class bunch of natives, this influx of celebrities and high rollers is not going over well...especially the concept of people who use Montana as a second home. People here have an outright disdain for people from California and the East Coast, but they will typically welcome folks from other areas of the Intermountain West or the Midwest with open arms.

I think a lot of states in the west probaby are experiencing rapid growth situation with people bringing different, more "city-fied" values. I think the west has always been sort of all about "live and let live" and has been reluctant to accept a lot of constraints on personal liberties. We also really value land and public access. When people come in from other areas, they change the dynamic of interaction between neighbors and interaction between individuals and the government. Westerners have also been really leery of federal laws and want more states' rights. We also have large water issues in the Intermountain West. We're all kind of feeling similar growing pains.

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Old 04-01-2007, 07:05 PM
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Location: Foot of the Rockies
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People here have an outright disdain for people from California and the East Coast, but they will typically welcome folks from other areas of the Intermountain West or the Midwest with open arms.
How interesting! Here are the population stats for Billings, the biggest city in Montana:

Place of birth:
Montana: 57%
Northeast: 3%
Midwest: 17%
South
(presumably includes southeast) 4%
West (includes intermtn as well as 16%
CA, WA, OR)

So the out of staters you well welcome with open arms are the ones causing the most "problems" in terms of numbers.

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